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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

fjauliveld

New Member
Just got my results from the test I took on Thursday. Ecstatic!!!

1st attempt : 5/5/6/ 49

Thursday : 6/6/7/ 59

I have to give many thanks to everyone on here that has posted gouge/websites for reference. atrickpay's gouge was invaluable. I used that gouge, Barron's, ARCO, and the Marine Gouge. I can't thank the contributors on here enough.
 

GreenLantern330

Active Member
Just got my results from the test I took on Thursday. Ecstatic!!!

1st attempt : 5/5/6/ 49

Thursday : 6/6/7/ 59

I have to give many thanks to everyone on here that has posted gouge/websites for reference. atrickpay's gouge was invaluable. I used that gouge, Barron's, ARCO, and the Marine Gouge. I can't thank the contributors on here enough.


Congrats! That's a huge jump! Which forms did you get?
 

Lucy

Member
Just got my results from the test I took on Thursday. Ecstatic!!!

1st attempt : 5/5/6/ 49

Thursday : 6/6/7/ 59

I have to give many thanks to everyone on here that has posted gouge/websites for reference. atrickpay's gouge was invaluable. I used that gouge, Barron's, ARCO, and the Marine Gouge. I can't thank the contributors on here enough.

Awesome job!
 

MAAShot12

New Member
A 9 point drop in the OAR section for a 1 point gain in the PFAR section and 2 point gain in the FOFAR section? (You do the math).
To be honest, I think your scores were fine just how they were. Why did you retest?

The reason I retested was b/c my original scores weren't high enough to compensate for my below 3.0 GPA. That and I knew I could do better, shown by the increases in my PFAR and FOFAR. However, I never anticipated the distractions that occurred during the first half of the test.

I'm now starting to realize that a 59 IS significantly better than a 50, as evidenced by some test takers who have scored 8/9/9 or similar but scored "only" a 59 OAR. And that fact negates any math I've done that says otherwise.
 

TheBirdy

Well-Known Member
pilot
The reason I retested was b/c my original scores weren't high enough to compensate for my below 3.0 GPA. That and I knew I could do better, shown by the increases in my PFAR and FOFAR. However, I never anticipated the distractions that occurred during the first half of the test.

I'm now starting to realize that a 59 IS significantly better than a 50, as evidenced by some test takers who have scored 8/9/9 or similar but scored "only" a 59 OAR. And that fact negates any math I've done that says otherwise.

Ah ok. Well, all I can say is best of luck applying. If you don't get a pro-rec, bust your ass again studying for the ASTB and really rock it. I have a < 3.0 GPA, so I know what you mean when you feel like your ASTB score isn't high enough (I have a 7/7/7 58 and a 2.57 in Mathematics, been contemplating retaking, but recruiter advised against it).
 

Surfer727

New Member
Posted a 6/6/7 54... What say you.

I probably could have done somewhat better, if I had studied more deliberately. However, I have a couple of buddies who faired relatively equally and were selected pilot. Not sure exactly how competitive the OAR is for aviation, anyone have any words of wisdom?
 

VNE

Member
Not sure what value of wisdom this has, but I found a quote on the nyusn blog from a recruiter/winged aviator in regards to the ASTB.

"A lot of people write in asking if they are competitive for selection on the boards. I made up a profile of someone off the top of my head of who I can see being selected for a position. I'll tell you straight off that your ASTB scores (in my mind at least) are what get you in, the Navy may deny it and say that it is the "whole person" but ASTB is the money maker. Second I feel are your college grades, I particularly don't agree with this for various reasons. Firstly it is because I don't think much for formal education in general. I hated college and thought it was a complete waste of time, I learned very little and if I could do it all over again I probably wouldn't have gone myself. But my opinions are constantly reinforced. How? I have given over 100 ASTB exams since I started working as a recruiter and have seen no more than 14 over 60 on the OAR. Meanwhile most all applicants have a GPA above a 3.0. In turn you are above average for four years and then cannot score above average on a test that is basic SAT knowledge. That tells me grades are inflated beyond reliability and also that there are too many colleges and too many people who attend them.

And the Navy is not an environment in which book knowledge translates into success in the field. The best Officers I have met have been ones who were either bored with school or didn't score very high. BUT they were great in pressure situations and ones which demanded a proper decision with little information. But I am getting off track...

All that lip service about whole person comes in when there are two applicants who have the same test scores and the same college grades. At that time if you have something extra in your background then it will be the deal breaker but that is the only time I can see it having any effect. And in regards to LORs, unless it is from a Senator, Congressman, Jamie Dimon, Obama....real heavy hitters in the world, people who could make a phone call and get something done; well they aren't going to mean much at all.

Jack Huntington has a 3.4 GPA from Michigan. On his ASTB he scored a 63 with an AQR of 8, and sevens on the other two sections. He played two varsity sports in high school and was the captain of one, of which he also made All State in his senior year. He had a summer job as a base ball coach up until his senior year when he interned and eventually worked at said job for two years. As witnessed by his scores he has been curious about aviation, ships and mechanics his whole life but possesses no formal training in any of those fields. He is physically fit and stays so working out five days a week.

Now the big question is if you are not this guy how do you make up for it? The only answer is through the ASTB. The ASTB is who you are now, not who you were. Also it has been designed to gauge how well you will do in OCS. Basically the OAR portion is a judge of how a candidate will fare with the academic portion at OCS. The aviation portions determine how well you will do in API which determines how well you will do in flight school. After having gone through them all I can say that it is pretty spot on."
 

MGoBrew11

Well-Known Member
pilot
@ Surfer,

I agree with VNE/nyusn that the ASTB is probably at the top in importance. However, I would submit with your scores once and see what happens. Those are not bad scores at all. There is room for improvement, but if you scour the threads for previous selection statistics, a lot of guys get picked up with similar scores.

If you don't get selected a first time, study harder and improve!
 

colecobb

New Member
uriah06@hotmail.com

I would appreciate any help. I've taken the test twice and improved but not how I need to improve. So if you could email me any info you have, I would greatly appreciate it. Any recommendations I will take as well.
 

GreenLantern330

Active Member
uriah06@hotmail.com

I would appreciate any help. I've taken the test twice and improved but not how I need to improve. So if you could email me any info you have, I would greatly appreciate it. Any recommendations I will take as well.

Do you really expect someone to send you their study guide or gouge just because you simply ask for it? Come on, you want to be a naval officer so stop being lazy and search the threads. There's so much gouge out there and if you're too lazy for that, then try google, but if you are that lazy then good luck in any branch of the military.
 

madmax

New Member
I have heard of people using the "boat page" for gouge. I have searched and can't seem to find the source. Can anybody point me in the right direction?
 
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