Can you count to two (anchors)?

[FMRAM]

Nope, Lewie is right. He did however bold the wrong word in the sentence.
I wonder how much his personal experience in the Navy shaped his opinion on the prestige of a destroyer skipper vs. nugget pilot. I can't help but thinking that it must have been the opposite while was in Pensacola. Classic case of the grass is always greener syndrome.

 

[scoober78]

I guess all I'm trying to say is that it is annoying to see that every fifth post is a typo correction.

You know...there is an easy solution, and it is not leaving shoddy grammar slide...

 

[Pugs]

Let's hear it for A6 B/N's:
first flag NFO: Lyle Bull, first carrier CO: Dick Dunleavy, and now Fox Fallon.

Sure but "Fox" started out as an RSO in Vigi's a FAR cooler looking airplane than the Intruder He was my CAG on TR during ODS and got to fly with him a few times. He loved the INS in the Prowler as he didn't have to put on his glasses to see the big red numbers.....

 

[A4sForever]

Let's hear it for A6 B/N's:
first flag NFO: Lyle Bull, first carrier CO: Dick Dunleavy, and now Fox Fallon.

Dunleavy and I got along very well ... I might even be so bold as to say .... the Admiral "loved" me ... in any case, he flew with me on cruise when he was doing some of his mandatory black shoe years ... ... Dunleavy was a first class guy; a real hard-dick ... a true warrior.

I know Bull, as well. A credit to the community and a political + for A-6's. Other than that .... no comment.

 

[FlyinSpy]

Grammar and colleges aside...the real news is that an Admiral is up for a historically Marine/Army position. Lots of head scratching and postulating on that one from some pretty well read people.

To say nothing of a lateral combatant command-to-another-combatant-command move. Not unheard of, but not exactly common either - in fact, I'm having a hard time coming up with the last time this has happened. Given the list of FOs and GOs that are available at any given time, it's interesting that the nod went to Fallon. Makes you wonder - was he first on the list, or 14th?

 

[Gatordev]

To say nothing of a lateral combatant command-to-another-combatant-command move. Not unheard of, but not exactly common either - in fact, I'm having a hard time coming up with the last time this has happened. Given the list of FOs and GOs that are available at any given time, it's interesting that the nod went to Fallon. Makes you wonder - was he first on the list, or 14th?

From what little I've heard/read, it wouldn't surprise me if he was first. The group think seems to be that someone is thinking "bigger picture."

 

[Steve Wilkins]

I must be dealing with a bunch of idiots here. A bunch of Enswines and Enswine wannabee trying to correct me??? Puhhhhleeeeze.

Nope, Lewie is right. He did however bold the wrong word in the sentence.

Yes, I know I'm right and no, I didn't bold the wrong word. I simply quoted your original statement. It was you who bolded "your" in the sentence and that wasn't the word I was referring to.

I wonder how much his personal experience in the Navy shaped his opinion on the prestige of a destroyer skipper vs. nugget pilot. I can't help but thinking that it must have been the opposite while was in Pensacola.

Me thinks you need to brush up on your naval history.

Classic case of the grass is always greener syndrome.

Again, don't assume that it is something I wanted to do or had he goal of doing.

 

[pourts]

Neptunus Lex had an interesting take on why he was picked. Unfortunately my computer is not cooperating and I cannot include a link to his blog.
It had to do with his attack pilot experience (Vietnam and Desert Storm) and possible air operations in CENTCOM in the near future, namely Iran.

I think it could also mean that if anything comes up in that region in the near future, we won't be performing any extensive ground operations because the country is tired of playing in the sandbox now. That and maybe some higher up thinks a "fish out of water" will be easy to control.

 

[Catmando]

... Dunleavy was a first class guy; a real hard-dick ... a true warrior.

I know Bull, as well. A credit to the community and a political + for A-6's. Other than that .... no comment.

Well, I'll comment.

Back in the day, I once had the "audacity" as a JO to tell "the Bull" as Airops during a difficult night recovery, what was "prudent" for one of our pilots. Total illogical fireworks instantly followed… although I was correct in suggesting a bingo for a damaged F-14, at night, and in heavy seas. However, several years later, he went well out of his way to make me remember and regret it. He was great for his own A-6 community and his acolytes, but he hated my community. 'nuff said.

Re. Dunleavy and Fallon… I knew of both, but didn't know either personally. However those that did all relayed strong, favorable impressions for both.

 

[wink]

I think it could also mean that if anything comes up in that region in the near future, we won't be performing any extensive ground operations because the country is tired of playing in the sandbox now. That and maybe some higher up thinks a "fish out of water" will be easy to control.

I disagree that the area of warfare experience somehow will dictate the tactics or strategy used in his AOR. Give me a break. The guy is a four star. He makes big decisions based on the staff work of dozens of individuals with all sorts of qualifications and experience. To follow your logic, if the Carrier Strike Group Commander is a bubble head he will be orienting the CSG toward ASW. I spent some time on the staff of the Commander of Naval Forces Europe. His NATO hat was Commander Allied Forces Southern Europe. That meant the commander of all NATO forces, land, air, sea, in southern Europe, which included the Balkans, Italy, Greece, Turkey, and more, was always a Navy Admiral. Any good Flag Officer with a diligent talented joint staff can command any joint combat command without regard for the type of warfare expected or planned or the nature of the battle space.

 

[wink]

Ran in to Dunleavy at tail hook a couple times. Really liked him. Once he took the time to actually come down to the VS admin to seek out some JOs and talk to us about the V-22. At the time, it was being considered as a replacement for the Hoover. We had beers and told him how fvked up an idea that was. He listened, asked questions and we never heard another serious suggestion that the Osprey replace the Viking.

 

[phrogdriver]

Well, the Academy is more prestigious than your typical run of the mill ROTC units. Hell, even I'll admit that.

I don't think the article ever stated which NROTC unit he went to. Penn, Duke, and Cornell have NROTC units. I'd say they're pretty prestigious, maybe more so than USNA. Definitely more prestigious than some of the near-community-college-level NROTC universities, whcih I think you're getting at.

He listened, asked questions and we never heard another serious suggestion that the Osprey replace the Viking.

As opposed to being replaced by nothing, or a combination of helos and Rhinos? I'm curious on this one--new thread?

 

[A4sForever]

I don't think the article ever stated which NROTC unit he went to. Penn, Duke, and Cornell have NROTC units. I'd say they're pretty prestigious .....

The original six NROTC units:

1. University of California
2. Northwestern University
3. University of Washington
4. Harvard University
5. Yale University
6. Georgia Institute of Technology

Prestigious ??? I'd say they're pretty "prestigious" .... at least as much as the Boat School ... unless you are sitting at the bar and the drunk guys down at the end are knocking their rings on the polished wood ....

 

[Goober]

The original six NROTC units:

1. University of California
2. Northwestern University
3. University of Washington
4. Harvard University
5. Yale University
6. Georgia Institute of Technology

Prestigious ??? I'd say they're pretty "prestigious" .... at least as much as the Boat School ... unless you are sitting at the bar and the drunk guys down at the end are knocking their rings on the polished wood ....

Little-known worthless trivia: Harvard University's NROTC unit was "invited" to find a new home during the U.S. involvement in Vietnam. Evidently something about Ivy-League Yankees not approving of the military or some such nonsense. That unit transferred to (was actually requested by) Jacksonville University, a private university in Jax, who offered to the Navy that they would gladly and willingly host the unit. Hence the term at JU of "Harvard of the South." Said unit is now one of the largest NROTC battalions in the Navy.

[/worthless trivia]

 

[pourts]

I disagree that the area of warfare experience somehow will dictate the tactics or strategy used in his AOR. Give me a break. The guy is a four star. He makes big decisions based on the staff work of dozens of individuals with all sorts of qualifications and experience. To follow your logic, if the Carrier Strike Group Commander is a bubble head he will be orienting the CSG toward ASW. I spent some time on the staff of the Commander of Naval Forces Europe. His NATO hat was Commander Allied Forces Southern Europe. That meant the commander of all NATO forces, land, air, sea, in southern Europe, which included the Balkans, Italy, Greece, Turkey, and more, was always a Navy Admiral. Any good Flag Officer with a diligent talented joint staff can command any joint combat command without regard for the type of warfare expected or planned or the nature of the battle space.

Well, warfare specialty is not everything, but there is a reason some positions are typically for Army/Marine (CENTCOM) and some for Navy (PACOM).