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ABMD
Bullets don't fly without Supply
Couldn't agree more.
Hoo boy.
The fact sheet links to an hour-long BitChute video. Not promising. Not watching the whole thing, but within the first few minutes, the speaker, Dr. Simone Gold, claims Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are effective treatments for those sick with COVID-19, which they're not (again, they're an anti-parasitic and an anti-malarial, respectively). She also claimed the NIH did not recommend any treatment for non-hospitalized COVID sufferers, also not true. Comments being disabled on the video is a big red flag, as is the title of the video being in all caps. More on Dr. Simone Gold in a minute.
Back to the fact sheet: "Some experts believe that the “vaccine” can cause infertility in men and women." This barely meets the standard of being called a fact. Some experts can believe the moon is made of cheese. That doesn't make it true. Also, to call someone an expert usually requires naming them and offering their credentials to ensure credibility. The fact sheet doesn't attempt to do this. Notably, Dr. Gold, the speaker in the first video was fired at two hospitals after her group hosted a rally last July to tout the use of hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 cure. She was among those that stormed the Capitol on January 6, claiming she didn't know it was illegal.
"A CDC study showed that 2.8% of “vaccine” recipients experienced “Health Impact Events.” These are defined as the recipient not being able to perform normal daily activities after receiving the shot, including work. Care from a doctor or healthcare provider was required." Actually seems to be true, though incomplete. This is why when you get the COVID vaccine, you must wait in the facility for a certain amount of time (this is at least the case at the walk-in clinic at NAS Jax), in case you're one of the very rare few that have an adverse reaction.
"Both the Pfizer and Moderna “vaccines” were tested using stem cells derived from an aborted baby. These stem cells are called “HEK 293” cells, technically referred to as human fetal tissue. In fact, “HEK” stands for Human Embryonic Kidney. The practice of killing a baby in its mother’s womb, then harvesting organs from that baby, selling them to a laboratory, then harvesting cells from that organ and culturing them in order to “improve” the lives of others was done most notoriously by Nazi doctors (and is currently being done in China). America has historically strongly condemned such practices as being grossly immoral, and Christian ethicists have argued that such practices result in severe judgment upon societies by a holy God. If you object to receiving the shot on the grounds of it being morally wrong and/or against Christian principles (which I do), you would want to avoid the Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen (upcoming) “vaccines.” The Janssen (Johnson & Johnson)2 “vaccine” was produced, developed and tested using retinal human fetal stem cells called PER.C6." This one straight up argues that if you get the vaccine, you incur the wrath of God. It also offers the opinion of the writer, which has no place on a fact sheet. I can't believe the Church actually had to come out and say God says it's okay to get the vaccine, where morally acceptable alternative vaccines aren't available. See also page 2 of this document. The same document explains these fetal cells were taken from elective abortions in 1973 and 1985. It's not as if scientists are waiting at the abortion clinic for fresh cells to use for vaccines. These two elective abortions were developed into cell lines that also allowed the development of vaccines against hep A, rabies, rubella (from the MMR vaccine), and varicella. I'm not gonna get into my own faith and beliefs, but I do understand and sympathize with the pro-life movement. But nothing can be done to undo these abortions that happened years before I was born. Wouldn't it be a needless waste to refuse to use the results from these two procedures in order to prevent the further loss of life?
Here's a fun read: the Wikipedia page of one of the speakers at Dr. Gold's rally. She claimed to have cured 350 patients of COVID at her clinic using hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin (an anti-bacterial, which is ALSO useless against a virus), and zinc (used to treat the common cold). Oddly, she left out the part about prescribing pills to a woman with a broken needle in her arm earlier that year, instead of, oh I don't know, removing the needle. This woman developed a flesh-eating infection and died, and Immanuel fled Louisiana to avoid a malpractice lawsuit and set up a practice at a strip mall in Houston.
The "Important Links" sections looks...like more of the same.
The vaccines efficacy is proven beyond any reasonable doubt. VAERS data is worthy of consideration, but should absolutely be remembered that it is unverified information, and does not establish any causality (sick/dead after the vaccine, or because of the vaccine). I do think the arguments that mRNA is genetic engineering (IE alters DNA) is one the biggest pieces of misinformation out there.
I’ve hated the masks, but truly hated the lockdowns. I think they were extremely damaging and unnecessary. I hated the politicization of everything. I think Fauci sucks.
But I am going to say I don’t think a vaccine will be distributed to the worldwide population with a known high risk of genetic modification or anything. It is true that the vaccine is new and no long term effects are known. I believe people should make informed choices and should be free. That said, again, there’s no way that the worlds best scientists, microbiologists, biomedical engineers, etc are going to send out something that is dangerous. That is not naive or ignoring the pharma profit motive. As greedy as they are, their smart people can make good vaccines. mRNA technology is decades old, but wasn’t refined enough until recently and it is put to real human use for this first time.
I have zero concern with how fast the vaccines came out. The speed was a combination of massive government subsidies (thank you Trump and Operation Warp Speed), and leveraging very well known properties of the SARS/MERS viruses (we got lucky there).
Again, everyone should be free to make their own choice for an emergency use vaccine….but misinformation reduces that freedom.
I’ve hated the masks, but truly hated the lockdowns. I think they were extremely damaging and unnecessary. I hated the politicization of everything. I think Fauci sucks.
But I am going to say I don’t think a vaccine will be distributed to the worldwide population with a known high risk of genetic modification or anything. It is true that the vaccine is new and no long term effects are known. I believe people should make informed choices and should be free. That said, again, there’s no way that the worlds best scientists, microbiologists, biomedical engineers, etc are going to send out something that is dangerous. That is not naive or ignoring the pharma profit motive. As greedy as they are, their smart people can make good vaccines. mRNA technology is decades old, but wasn’t refined enough until recently and it is put to real human use for this first time.
I have zero concern with how fast the vaccines came out. The speed was a combination of massive government subsidies (thank you Trump and Operation Warp Speed), and leveraging very well known properties of the SARS/MERS viruses (we got lucky there).
Again, everyone should be free to make their own choice for an emergency use vaccine….but misinformation reduces that freedom.
Long term side effects in vaccines are incredibly rare. Side effects from nearly all vaccines including the types the COVID vaccine are, occur within hours and days. The result of the side effect may be long term, but it will occur very soon after the Jab. There have been enough doses to know within a reasonable degree of scientific certainty the potential side effects.
Again Tycho for the win with his response! Thank you!
Well that would explain why the moon has so many holes in it...
ABMD
Bullets don't fly without Supply
FIFY
^This is, in fact, the reference I was subtly making. "Everybody knows the moon's made of cheese."
Good find Slick. Seems like you nailed him.
Weird, it’s almost like Fauci knew (and had others telling him) the whole time that the virus was from the lab, but had a unified effort to say otherwise.