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Oh, stop; you're just going to confuse the boy with all these "regulations" quoted from "sources".
In Meridian we technically had a Wx Brief on file everyday for all the canned routes we flew. I'm not going to speak to how much we actually looked at said brief as oppose to looking at the weather from other sources, but that brief did in fact exist to make us legal.
We used canned briefs all the time, but in small print it said it wasn't a -1. Also, when we used a Tango 3 we never went through the process of giving all our information (like at an FSS). Is that since the squadron has all our info should something happen?
I don't know what a "Tango 3" is, but it sounds like a canned route. Most high-volume places are going to have canned routes that cut down on the filing and paperwork for base ops. All you do is tell Base Ops what route you're filing and they punch it in for you.
If you're done w/ Primary, I'm surprised you haven't been exposed to this. I'm not blaming you, and maybe Corpus is different, but this is pretty standard stuff at Whiting. Yeah, the -1 details are a little in the weeds, but it's interesting to see the differences in exposure between the wings. Not saying one is better than other, just different.
For some reason I thought you were a good ways through the Advanced portion of training which is why I brought it up. A quick scan of "facts" reveals otherwise. Below in SA for me.
Again, though, I wasn't calling you out and apologize if it sounded that way.
Just to clarify: yes, a Tango 3 is one of the local LOA coded flight plans. We don't do any filing. We just get a canned wx brief, and head out to the plane. We simply put a "tango 3" on request with clearance (local area instrument approaches) and tell them our first approach.
BTW, XJ, it IS a legal -1, you are looking at the wrong sheet. It has a flimsy number, a brief time, expiration time and all of it. PM me if you want me to explain (your metro-fu needs some improvement).
I've finally figured out what goes on here in Corpus in case anyone was wondering, or still cares. This is what was relayed to me and clarifies things. The "Tango 3" and the like are coded flight plans that are part of the local letter of agreement between all the controlling agencies as said before. It turns out that our squadron's flight schedules count for the manifests and provide the necessary info that would normally be placed on a DD-175 and since we're staying local (or carrying out what's on the coded flight plan), the route of flight is also taken care of. The canned -1 weather briefs we get are only legal for our local area, as well. Sweet.