A thousand times this. Ball caps don’t fit in the pocket line a piss cutter does. Only the Es in my squadron wore them, and sure, they’re better than the 8 point NWU cover.
Also who gives a fuck.
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A thousand times this. Ball caps don’t fit in the pocket line a piss cutter does. Only the Es in my squadron wore them, and sure, they’re better than the 8 point NWU cover.
Also who gives a fuck.
I realize that seeing the rank is easy for flight suits, Type I’s, etc., but if you have ever worked in a predominantly Type III environment where folks also wear badge lanyards around their necks, you will know what I am talking about.
I would never wesr a ball cap with a flight suit. Only talking about for Type IIIs, really.
I would never wesr a ball cap with a flight suit. Only talking about for Type IIIs, really.
My unit must be the exception. It’s $20 cash.
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The only time I've ever been at a command where the hat was given versus I had to buy it was on a ship, and that was because you had to "earn" the cover (know the ship's robust history and namesake). Otherwise, I've always had to pay for it.
I will give you that the enlisted usually got their first one for free, but on the O side, not so much.
If someone is wearing Type III with a lanyard and badge, they are either: A) Indoors, and you don't need to worry about their rank, or B) Outdoors and out of uniform, and you also don't need to worry about their rank.
I really do love the dual importance attached to someone who needs to wear camouflage to hide from from the enemy while simultaneously wearing a lanyard and badge to announce their importance and access. (I get it, local uniform instructions. Just know that we're laughing with you, not at you.....probably)
I've never been in a command where officers/aviators wear ball caps until my current squadron. And yes, I bought my first one, lost it immediately, bought my second one specifically for one function, and wore it exactly that one time. I also bought a whole set of NWU's for one specific function and ended up wearing them 0 times. I don't even know where they are anymore, last I saw them was 2014. I'd have to look at my mess bill to know what the price was for either hat, but $20 doesn't sound that unrealistic. I hate ball caps in uniform. It's probably a good option for folks who wear NWU's or type III's, but both of those uniforms are abominations IMO. If only we had a uniform, called coveralls, that both 1) were a useful uniform, and 2) looked 100000 times sharper than NWU's, and 3) we also already had them in the inventory and in people's wardrobes........
Might just be random luck for me, or it might be community specific trends. That being said, I have never been in a VFA squadron with a greenie board, which is probably also a statistical anomaly.
Definitely random luck, especially the second part. Did the Valions do away with their greenie board after I left? We had one on the 2009 and 2011 cruises...
I forgot we cruised together.
You know Stray was one of my DHs?
Copy all. I agree that command ball caps for a ship look classic. The ones I've seen for some shore commands are, well, less classic.
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Yes, we did, though the remnants of your previous greenie board lived at the bottom of a random whiteboard in the ready room. It looked like it was much less than the entire squadron who participated (cough2hingescough), though maybe there was an actual board you guys had that I never saw. But yes, throughout workups and deployment, we didn't waste our time with such things. Turns out the real colorful/scary passes pretty much entirely came from our sister squadrons, who did have greenie boards. Coincidence? I'd argue it was not.