zab1001 said:Agreed. If you're that flipped out about it, follow Wink's advice and call the damn tower. Otherwise let it go.
If you say so, good buddy. I'm done trying to convince you.beau said:he was wrong!
Brett327 said:Ever seen a good crop duster work their magic? Pretty wild stuff and close to the ground, but they do it 40 times a day, every day - hardly illegal.
Sounds highly illegal, we had better report that guy!grunge said:F' yeah man-on the departure end of active RW 32 at Whiting on a beautiful 'send the solos' day. Any other whiting guys ever see that dude out there or did I just eat the wrong mushrooms on my omlet that morning? Fella had some serious stones. I'd be more scared of the bubbas than the maneuvers.
Ahhh HAAA! Pretty much what I figured - I almost broke out my IFR Sup to make the call too (got distracted by bright shiny objects next to me). BZ to Wink (rep points if I could, bro) and a lesson for all you studs who think you know more than you really do.wink said:With respect to squeeze I am reopening this thread. He closed the thread just as I took the time, 5 minutes, to do what some of you mother hens should have done. From half way across the country I took it upon myself to do what I couldn't convince you busy bodies to do for yourself. I called the tower at NAS Meridian and spoke with a Petty Officer on watch. I can confirm catagorically that, as speculated earlier, that Cessna is a power line patrol that comes through regularly. He has ATC clearance to do everything he does and is very much familier with all your procedures and relative locations in the pattern. He comes in that low to inspect and avoid you guys at the tower's request. It is safe to say he has not only more flight time than most of you guys but has more time in that very airspace than many of you. You may still want to argue that the maneuver discribed as a wing over is dangerous or a violation of FARs. Well, the tower sure doesn't think it is dangerous or they would tell him to knock it off. I was told by the tower personel that his aircraft is a Cessna 172 with a supplemental type certificate for a larger engine. Probably more than enough for the maneuver witnessed, whatever it really was. As to the complaint that he is below 1500 feet and maybe in violation of FAR 91.303, I can't say since I didn't witness the manevuer. But I can say you studs are below 1500 feet and in the break, a decent fleet break anyway, you are conducting an aerobatic maneuver. I understand you studs are very busy. But for the time you spent in front of the computer you could have gotten all the info you desired without speculation by making a phone call. So some of you find the maneuver somehow dangerous or risky. Fine, I take it you wouldn't do it yourself. It hardly means, given what we now know, that he is the idiot civ pilot with no respect for safety, his pedestrian talent, you lofty student naval aviators or the whimpy plane he flies. wtf, give the guy a break!!
wink said:With respect to squeeze I am reopening this thread. He closed the thread just as I took the time, 5 minutes, to do what some of you mother hens should have done. From half way across the country I took it upon myself to do what I couldn't convince you busy bodies to do for yourself. I called the tower at NAS Meridian and spoke with a Petty Officer on watch. I can confirm catagorically that, as speculated earlier, that Cessna is a power line patrol that comes through regularly. He has ATC clearance to do everything he does and is very much familier with all your procedures and relative locations in the pattern. He comes in that low to inspect and avoid you guys at the tower's request. It is safe to say he has not only more flight time than most of you guys but has more time in that very airspace than many of you. You may still want to argue that the maneuver discribed as a wing over is dangerous or a violation of FARs. Well, the tower sure doesn't think it is dangerous or they would tell him to knock it off. I was told by the tower personel that his aircraft is a Cessna 172 with a supplemental type certificate for a larger engine. Probably more than enough for the maneuver witnessed, whatever it really was. As to the complaint that he is below 1500 feet and maybe in violation of FAR 91.303, I can't say since I didn't witness the manevuer. But I can say you studs are below 1500 feet and in the break, a decent fleet break anyway, you are conducting an aerobatic maneuver. I understand you studs are very busy. But for the time you spent in front of the computer you could have gotten all the info you desired without speculation by making a phone call. So some of you find the maneuver somehow dangerous or risky. Fine, I take it you wouldn't do it yourself. It hardly means, given what we now know, that he is the idiot civ pilot with no respect for safety, his pedestrian talent, you lofty student naval aviators or the whimpy plane he flies. wtf, give the guy a break!!
Mefesto said:BA ZING!!!! Exacatly what I had posted earlier....
And with probably well over 700 hours in 172's, I can tell you that "reefing" the controls in one dosen't lead to anything spectacular, or dangerous.