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"Women of CVN76" Get's Skipper called to Washington

jus2mch

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I had a feeling someone was gonna put the hammer down on all those youtube videos. I think we are all in for some NKO training soon. It usually takes about two years to catch up.
 

Fezz CB

"Spanish"
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Next thing ya know no more digital or video cameras allowed on all ships. That's too bad because those music videos gave me something to do other than study.
 

HeyJoe

Fly Navy! ...or USMC
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I must confess that I agree with Norman Polmar on this one......
 

Gatordev

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Next thing ya know no more digital or video cameras allowed on all ships. That's too bad because those music videos gave me something to do other than study.

Sorry, but just can't happen. I've been onboard when the faucet was turned off for a while (ie, the interweb) so nothing could get off the ship, but there's too many official reasons to use the equipment, and someone has to keep custody of them. And when those people get bored.....
 

FUPaladin

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30,000 views sounds like a lot, but compared to some of their other videos, "Women of CVN76" was virtually unknown. "Pump It" has nearly a million views, and "Hey Ya" is well over 600,000. My personal opinion, from a civilian perspective, is that while some of their videos are just kind of stupid and a waste of time, others seem like a positive thing for the Navy. A quick browse through the comments on those videos shows that they're creating plenty of good will, and in some ways they're not terrible recruiting material either. There are few things more badass than snapping a salute then getting shot off the deck of a carrier.
 

insanebikerboy

Internet killed the television star
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Having been there, Papa Nuke doesn't mess around. I'm honestly surprised they even had a camera down there, much less filming.

That said, the average Joe can go to the local library to get the info and build his own reactor just like the Navy's. It's not the designs that makes it classified, it's the numbers for pressures, yada yada, and you cant see that on that video.
 

Brett327

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I must confess that I agree with Norman Polmar on this one......

No kidding. Of all the things to get worked up about. Over-reactions like these do harm to our reputation and affect morale.

Brett
 

Steve Wilkins

Teaching pigs to dance, one pig at a time.
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Absolutely ridiculous! Standby for an an ALNAV by next Monday.
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
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It's not the designs that makes it classified, it's the numbers for pressures, yada yada, and you cant see that on that video.

Actually...that depends on the plant. Not knowing anything about surface plants, I can't say what is at issue here but there were several classified elements in the design of both S8G and the freakish S5W plant I operated that weren't in any library.

There was never a restriction on cameras in our engine rooms...we used video for training all the time. Granted this is a little different but...

There was absolutely nothing classified or damaging to nuclear power in that vid...stupid...all the way around.
 

Steve Wilkins

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but there were several classified elements in the design of both S8G and the freakish S5W plant I operated that weren't in any library.
Nothing freakish about the S5W plant....unless you send someone to go find the reduction gears. :devil_125
 

Schnugg

It's gettin' a bit dramatic 'round here...
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An image of a door is a security breach. YGTBSM!!
 

HeyJoe

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Having been there, Papa Nuke doesn't mess around. I'm honestly surprised they even had a camera down there, much less filming.

I agree, it's all about how the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program is run with its own four star admiral (the Rickover legacy lives on) in place for 8 years (no other four star position in any service has the same tenure or clout for so many aspects of a single program). It's about control and the Youtube video challenges that notion. Can you imagine how Rickover would have reacted?

The Executive Order specifying the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program

Ex. Ord. No. 12344, Feb. 1, 1982, 47 F.R. 4979, provided:
By the authority vested in me as President and as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America, with recognition of the crucial importance to national security of the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program, and for the purpose of preserving the basic structure, policies, and practices developed for this Program in the past and assuring that the Program will continue to function with excellence, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. The Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program is an integrated program carried out by two organizational units, one in the Department of Energy and the other in the Department of the Navy.
Sec. 2. Both organizational units shall be headed by the same individual so that the activities of each may continue in practice under common management. This individual shall direct the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program in both departments. The director shall be qualified by reason of technical background and experience in naval nuclear propulsion. The director may be either a civilian or an officer of the United States Navy, active or retired.
Sec. 3. The Secretary of the Navy (through the Secretary of Defense) and the Secretary of Energy shall obtain the approval of the President to appoint the director of the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program for their respective Departments. The director shall be appointed to serve a term of eight years, except that the Secretary of Energy and the Secretary of the Navy may, with mutual concurrence, terminate or extend the term of the respective appointments.
Sec. 4. An officer of the United States Navy appointed as director shall be nominated for the grade of Admiral. A civilian serving as director shall be compensated at a rate to be specified at the time of appointment.
Sec. 5. Within the Department of Energy, the Secretary of Energy shall assign to the director the responsibility of performing the functions of the Division of Naval Reactors transferred to the Department of Energy by Section 309(a) of the Department of Energy Organization Act (42 U.S.C. 7158), including assigned civilian power reactor programs, and any naval nuclear propulsion functions of the Department of Energy, including:
(a) direct supervision over the Bettis and Knolls Atomic Power Laboratories, the Expended Core Facility and naval reactor prototype plants;
(b) research, development, design, acquisition, specification, construction, inspection, installation, certification, testing, overhaul, refueling, operating practices and procedures, maintenance, supply support, and ultimate disposition, of naval nuclear propulsion plants, including components thereof, and any special maintenance and service facilities related thereto;
(c) the safety of reactors and associated navel [naval] nuclear propulsion plants, and control of radiation and radioactivity associated with naval nuclear propulsion activities, including prescribing and enforcing standards and regulations for these areas as they affect the environment and the safety and health of workers, operators, and the general public;
(d) training, including training conducted at the naval prototype reactors of the Department of Energy, and assistance and concurrence in the selection, training, qualification, and assignment of personnel reporting to the director and of personnel who supervise, operate, or maintain naval nuclear propulsion plants; and
(e) administration of the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program, including oversight of program support in areas such as security, nuclear safeguards and transportation, public information, procurement, logistics and fiscal management.
Sec. 6. Within the Department of Energy, the director shall report to the Secretary of Energy, through the Assistant Secretary assigned nuclear energy functions and shall serve as a Deputy Assistant Secretary. The director shall have direct access to the Secretary of Energy and other senior officials in the Department of Energy concerning naval nuclear propulsion matters, and to all other personnel who supervise, operate or maintain naval nuclear propulsion plants and support facilities for the Department of Energy.
Sec. 7. Within the Department of the Navy, the Secretary of the Navy shall assign to the director responsibility to supervise all technical aspects of the Navy’s nuclear propulsion work, including:
(a) research, development, design, procurement, specification, construction, inspection, installation, certification, testing, overhaul, refueling, operating practices and procedures, maintenance, supply support, and ultimate disposition, of naval nuclear propulsion plants, including components thereof, and any special maintenance and service facilities related thereto; and
(b) training programs, including Nuclear Power Schools of the Navy, and assistance and concurrence in the selection, training, qualification, and assignment of personnel reporting to the director and of Government personnel who supervise, operate, or maintain naval nuclear propulsion plants.
Sec. 8. Within the Department of the Navy, the Secretary of the Navy shall assign to the director responsibility within the Navy for:
(a) the safety of reactors and associated naval nuclear propulsion plants, and control of radiation and radioactivity associated with naval nuclear propulsion activities, including prescribing and enforcing standards and regulations for these areas as they affect the environment and the safety and health of workers, operators, and the general public.
(b) administration of the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program, including oversight of program support in areas such as security, nuclear safeguards and transportation, public information, procurement, logistics, and fiscal management.
Sec. 9. In addition to any other organizational assignments within the Department of the Navy, the director shall report directly to the Chief of Naval Operations. The director shall have direct access to the Secretary of the Navy and other senior officials in the Department of the Navy concerning naval nuclear propulsion matters, and to all other Government personnel who supervise, operate, or maintain naval nuclear propulsion plants and support facilities.
 
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