I have never taken anything other than a Hollywood shower... ever.
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Who Drives an Aircraft Carrier?
- Thread starter JWL
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Meh, I'm a DH as an O6 here at NAWDC. When the boss is an O7, that's just how you roll.
I hope the funk wasn’t too bad when you pulled alongside . . .
exNavyOffRec
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lol the smell of JP-5 blocked it all, that stays with you forever
Same. As it should be.
That’s a little different - having somebody do a URL tour or two as a SWO before they convert is different from what I was talking about...had a senior O3 METOC in my SWOS class who was required to get a SWO pin for the O4 board who had come off a CVN as an example.
Friend of mine, metoc from day one, was the pacfleet ship handler of the year. He was also a competitive sailor, so a good judge of things on the water.
How long is the disassociated tour? Two years? Won't an aviator get rusty if he/she does not fly for two whole years? Is there any chance to fly during that time?
Can the disassociated tours at least be fun and/or interesting? What kind of jobs do aviators do on a ship when not flying?
Can the disassociated tours at least be fun and/or interesting? What kind of jobs do aviators do on a ship when not flying?
Disassociated tour length depends on career timing (namely O4/DH selection) but it is nominally two years long.
Yes, aviators get rusty while not flying. SOME disassociated tours allow you the opportunity to fly. They are the exception, not the rule.
To knock off the rust, aviators that have been on a disassociated tour come back through the FRS before going out to the fleet. As an FRS Instructor, I can tell you that they pick flying back up very quickly.
Disassociated tours are not typically viewed as fun or interesting by aviators, but many people will come back from them and say they at least learned something or appreciated them in some way. The jobs available are varied, but for the most part you are working in a shipboard department. Could be Air Operations, Air Safety, Shooter etc. You learn to drive the ship on your "off" time and on watch.
Most boats seemed to have normal, "nice" shower heads (5gpm or greater) instead of low flow "Navy" heads (1-3gpm) and thus I never felt the slightest bit of guilt about any shower I ever took.
Let's see, 300~ish people on a smallboy crew, if everybody is hustling and uses only 5 minutes of water a day, these things will save the ship a few thousand gallons of potable water every single day of cruise. That's using conservative numbers.
They're also cheaper.
"Don't take Hollywood showers" is one of those clarion calls of hurr-durr leadership, same as things like the guy at the safety stand down who says to always drive the speed limit for safety. FWIW the Army was just as dumb in their hardware choices for field showers...
Let's see, 300~ish people on a smallboy crew, if everybody is hustling and uses only 5 minutes of water a day, these things will save the ship a few thousand gallons of potable water every single day of cruise. That's using conservative numbers.
They're also cheaper.
"Don't take Hollywood showers" is one of those clarion calls of hurr-durr leadership, same as things like the guy at the safety stand down who says to always drive the speed limit for safety. FWIW the Army was just as dumb in their hardware choices for field showers...
On the topic of Navy showers:. My grandfather was an Engineering Officer on board Essex class carriers and other old steam powered ships in the post-WWII Navy. I think water used to be a bigger deal for those ships as my grandfather still took "Navy showers" well past his retirement. Old habits die hard I guess and I'd imagine as one of the engineering officers he had a lot of personal incentive for not harming the steam plant.Most boats seemed to have normal, "nice" shower heads (5gpm or greater) instead of low flow "Navy" heads (1-3gpm) and thus I never felt the slightest bit of guilt about any shower I ever took.
Let's see, 300~ish people on a smallboy crew, if everybody is hustling and uses only 5 minutes of water a day, these things will save the ship a few thousand gallons of potable water every single day of cruise. That's using conservative numbers.
They're also cheaper.
"Don't take Hollywood showers" is one of those clarion calls of hurr-durr leadership, same as things like the guy at the safety stand down who says to always drive the speed limit for safety. FWIW the Army was just as dumb in their hardware choices for field showers...
Thanks, Brew
What happened to "button" showers? You don't have a plastic head on a hose that you had to hold a button down on? It required one dedicate hand just to get water flow. Basically, you were forced into a Navy shower. Rinse, lather up, rinse. You would have to carry a C clamp rig into the head to get a good Hollywood shower.Most boats seemed to have normal, "nice" shower heads (5gpm or greater) instead of low flow "Navy" heads (1-3gpm) and thus I never felt the slightest bit of guilt about any shower I ever took.
Let's see, 300~ish people on a smallboy crew, if everybody is hustling and uses only 5 minutes of water a day, these things will save the ship a few thousand gallons of potable water every single day of cruise. That's using conservative numbers.
They're also cheaper.
"Don't take Hollywood showers" is one of those clarion calls of hurr-durr leadership, same as things like the guy at the safety stand down who says to always drive the speed limit for safety. FWIW the Army was just as dumb in their hardware choices for field showers...
Nope . . . normal lever-style shower valves on my early 2010s CVN. Worst you'd get was some overmotivated HT installing one of those damn low-flow POSes. In which case you made a mental note, put your robe back on, moved to a different stall, and avoided the first one until the mist machine broke and they put in something normal.