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John Deere LA at Duluth Trading Co. today…our family had the Allis-Chalmers implement up in Wisconsin back in the day…the John Deere implement was the on the other side of town and was a menace…my family would shit their pants and never talk to me again if they saw me sitting on a Deere…it’s sort of like one of those Ford/Chevy things…

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You would have made for a good farmer.
 
You would have made for a good farmer.
Absolutely not, Skipper Griz. During summers, we would have a local farmer do haying on our 20 acres of land in rural Wisconsin. My dad would make me help with the haying as one of the stackers. The farmer would always report back to my dad that I was a lazy kid who complained often and that I would not be a good farmer.
 
Absolutely not, Skipper Griz. During summers, we would have a local farmer do haying on our 20 acres of land in rural Wisconsin. My dad would make me help with the haying as one of the stackers. The farmer would always report back to my dad that I was a lazy kid who complained often and that I would not be a good farmer.
Hmmm…I stand corrected…you make for a good airline pilot/cop/airline pilot.
 
One of the concerns, along with obsolescent / unsupported software, is long term battery health. What are most ev drivers seeing?

Here is one perspective from InsideEV’s


Edit- after reading the article, for Hyundai, that amount of loss in 3 years would result in a battery replacement under warranty.


After 3 years and 36,500 miles my battery in my Hyundai Ioniq5 is holding 95.3% SoH. After the initial 2-3% drop everyone sees in the first 3-6 months, mine has only lost .3 percent per year.


There are batteries that are 6-10 years old with 200,000 miles and tons of charges on them with less than 10% of a loss.

ICE cars do the same thing with their fuel economy.

And if I have 90% of the charge, or even 85%, it's not like my car becomes unusable.
 
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Nothing like launching a 8.2L diesel engine when the fuel is $6.50/gal... lol
Some initial reports state the new engine gets better mpg than the old 6.6 when towing / under heavy load.

I am curious to see if we are going to see a revival of interest in dual fuel designs utilizing diesel and CNG for big trucks since a gallon equivalent of CNG is 1/2 the cost.


John Deere LA at Duluth Trading Co. today…our family had the Allis-Chalmers implement up in Wisconsin back in the day…the John Deere implement was the on the other side of town and was a menace…my family would shit their pants and never talk to me again if they saw me sitting on a Deere…it’s sort of like one of those Ford/Chevy things…

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There was an Allis Chalmers dealership on the other side of town - good looking machines- but we were a John Deere operation as were most in our community. Our biggest were 4430’s, but the neighbors had some 5020’s and a beastly 6030.
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I'm currently in a Camry Hybrid rental. This is at least the second Camry Hybrid I've driven and the drive train is pretty good, but they've suffered from the same problem...I get worse gas mileage on the interstate than I do in a gas Camry and because the fuel tank is significantly smaller, I have to fill up every second day in the Hybrid instead of of every third day in the gas version (when driving to and from work).

But this particular Camry that I'm in now has it's own bizarre issue... Generally, Camrys (Camries?) are surprisingly pretty fun to aggressively attack on/off-ramps and interchanges. They'll start to push if you're too fast, but it tells you that as you get to the limit. I seem to recall the previous Camry Hybrid I had was also fairly nimble despite it's battery pack.

But this one seems to like to go sideways at the weirdest times. The first time I took a fairly technical interchange (decreasing radius, descending/downhill 270 loop) in this thing while it was wet. I knew it was wet and wasn't crazy with it and...then the rear end is going out. No problem, off the gass, counter-steer, squeeze some brake and it's back in line. But then coming out of the loop and into the acceleration lane, as I put the gas down...rear end comes out again. Very strange for a FWD car, and we're not talking torque steer. My RWD BMW doesn't even do that with all the magic turned off (albeit with a LSD).

Coming home from work the next morning, still wet, and I take an on-ramp that has a really nice driving line through it that I know very well...nope, car starts going sideways the second you turn the wheel into the apex. So then I'm wondering if maybe it's behaving like a rear-engine car with the weight shift due the weight of the batteries.

Last night while driving to work, I managed to hit the first interchange again with no traffic (a victory unto itself) and now it's completely dry. Well, let's see what it does as I point to the...nope, rear end starts to go sideways again and I just terminate everything.

I'm really wondering if something is going on with the stability control and it's not behaving as it should, causing one of the brakes to "help" when it shouldn't.

Anywho, final verdict so far is "meh." But a gas Camry is still a winner if you need that class of vehicle (except for the latest version of the infotainment system that Toyota is using...it's really annoying when using wireless CarPlay).
 
I'm currently in a Camry Hybrid rental. This is at least the second Camry Hybrid I've driven and the drive train is pretty good, but they've suffered from the same problem...I get worse gas mileage on the interstate than I do in a gas Camry and because the fuel tank is significantly smaller, I have to fill up every second day in the Hybrid instead of of every third day in the gas version (when driving to and from work).

But this particular Camry that I'm in now has it's own bizarre issue... Generally, Camrys (Camries?) are surprisingly pretty fun to aggressively attack on/off-ramps and interchanges. They'll start to push if you're too fast, but it tells you that as you get to the limit. I seem to recall the previous Camry Hybrid I had was also fairly nimble despite it's battery pack.

But this one seems to like to go sideways at the weirdest times. The first time I took a fairly technical interchange (decreasing radius, descending/downhill 270 loop) in this thing while it was wet. I knew it was wet and wasn't crazy with it and...then the rear end is going out. No problem, off the gass, counter-steer, squeeze some brake and it's back in line. But then coming out of the loop and into the acceleration lane, as I put the gas down...rear end comes out again. Very strange for a FWD car, and we're not talking torque steer. My RWD BMW doesn't even do that with all the magic turned off (albeit with a LSD).

Coming home from work the next morning, still wet, and I take an on-ramp that has a really nice driving line through it that I know very well...nope, car starts going sideways the second you turn the wheel into the apex. So then I'm wondering if maybe it's behaving like a rear-engine car with the weight shift due the weight of the batteries.

Last night while driving to work, I managed to hit the first interchange again with no traffic (a victory unto itself) and now it's completely dry. Well, let's see what it does as I point to the...nope, rear end starts to go sideways again and I just terminate everything.

I'm really wondering if something is going on with the stability control and it's not behaving as it should, causing one of the brakes to "help" when it shouldn't.

Anywho, final verdict so far is "meh." But a gas Camry is still a winner if you need that class of vehicle (except for the latest version of the infotainment system that Toyota is using...it's really annoying when using wireless CarPlay).

Your story makes me think you're in an AWD Hybrid Camry and the electric motor is kicking in and destabilizing the rear. Sounds incredibly annoying.
 
Your story makes me think you're in an AWD Hybrid Camry and the electric motor is kicking in and destabilizing the rear. Sounds incredibly annoying.

I have not seen any nomenclature saying it's AWD, but I'll have to look again. It's funny because I've driven the new M5 on a track in AWD mode and I didn't even know it was hybrid until afterwards. I will say I hear a weird noise from the right rear when I apply the brakes normally.

Another guess...I think the tires may be complete crap.
 
I have not seen any nomenclature saying it's AWD, but I'll have to look again. It's funny because I've driven the new M5 on a track in AWD mode and I didn't even know it was hybrid until afterwards. I will say I hear a weird noise from the right rear when I apply the brakes normally.

Another guess...I think the tires may be complete crap.

Occam's Razor... tires sound like a great place to start.
 
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