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UFOs?
- Thread starter nittany03
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Like I said, it’s blowing up on SWObob and one of the dudes was on watch as TAO when it happened. Not surprisingly there’s apparently more on the high side.
I wouldn’t be ready to call it a DJI drone without getting the full picture.
Is the TAO calling it extraterrestrial? Is DJI-like drone better? Define high side. People misuse that term a lot. It doesn’t mean GENSER secret.
This might fit the bill...
uavcoach.com
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Impossible Aerospace Drone Has Record-breaking 90-Min Battery Life
Impossible Aerospace's new drone, the Impossible US-1, was designed to have a long battery life and can stay in the air up to 120 minutes.
It was a mistake for DoD to lump drone/UAV incidents in with the truly unexplainable incidents into one category. Conflating these things for reporting purposes needlessly creates a sense with the public and the media that the "mysterious" incidents are on the rise, and that DoD has something to hide. Drone incidents are on the rise because they're proliferating rapidly - both for recreation and for non-traditional ISR performed by state and non-state actors. These things belong in a different category than the incidents involving the possibility of unknown foreign technology, which are obviously going to be handled within classified channels.
Yeah, it should be:
-random but normal sky crap (balloons, drones, guys in lawn chairs attached to balloons)
-things that are obviously of this earth but not normal (red stars, obvious surveillance, it's an airplane but not one of ours)
-MUTOs (mothra, ghidra, rodan, etc)
-unexplainable/not of this earth (that's no moon!)
-random but normal sky crap (balloons, drones, guys in lawn chairs attached to balloons)
-things that are obviously of this earth but not normal (red stars, obvious surveillance, it's an airplane but not one of ours)
-MUTOs (mothra, ghidra, rodan, etc)
-unexplainable/not of this earth (that's no moon!)
GENSER Secret.
There are some interesting datapoints in there and as I’ve moved on from being a SWO to focus on Combat Systems development and having been in the Live Fire DT/OF world, I’ve got a pretty good idea which things do or don’t add up, but it’s not something that’ll make sense without being able to look at and talk to primary sources at a minimum, Secret level. And I’m not excited enough to go bother a bunch of people who were there to try to get the details.
Well done story - thoughts on the interviews ?
As I've said many times in this forum, the decision to conflate UFOs and UAPs into a single category was a huge Public Affairs blunder by DoD. If this character actually had significant program access about this kind of thing, he wouldn't be singing on 60 Minutes. He offers no evidence for the outrageous claims he makes. The idea that a foreign power would test earth-shattering capabilities like this, right in our own MOAs and Warning Areas is beyond stupid. This 60 Minutes piece offers nothing of substance.
Well, I didn't know about this ATIP unit that was central to it, and it was good to see Alex Dietrich chime in to corroborate (I've always wondered what the deal with the other three Aviators was and whether their stories would mirror Fravor's). I'd call that substance, but our standards aren't the same.
I figured while watching the interview that she was retired, and that was her main reason to speak out, but it looks like she's still AD at the Academy. She had an interesting point about feeling somewhat beholden to speak out due to her line-of-duty perspective.
I’ve tried not to denigrate the aviators in all of this. They clearly saw something that they can’t explain. It’s hard to really make any kind of assessment once the media get ahold of the various video clips. The one that gets the most airplay, with the saucer looking object in the FLIR video, or the NVG triangles one, are so clearly optical artifacts that it’s pretty laughable at this point that they’re being held up as “evidence“ of flying saucers or exquisite adversary technology. That should cause most people to be skeptical about the entire thing.
Yep, I think the videos are borderline laughable as far as smoking-gun proof (of whatever) go. That's why I've always put the most weight on the Black Aces incident, because the players seemed reputable and there was other evidence supporting the incident.
I can't for the life of me understand why, with the drone thing on the west coast, and the alleged "almost every day" crap (tail end of the 60 Minutes piece) going on ivo VACAPES, that more/better/any video/pics were obtained. A guy gets mishandled here and it's on five people's Youtube accounts within hours. We had an entire ship get bombarded by drones and sorts of craziness off Norfolk and the public hasn't seen much of anything. Hopefully they're out there on some UAPTF's desk and just waiting to see the light of day.
I can't for the life of me understand why, with the drone thing on the west coast, and the alleged "almost every day" crap (tail end of the 60 Minutes piece) going on ivo VACAPES, that more/better/any video/pics were obtained. A guy gets mishandled here and it's on five people's Youtube accounts within hours. We had an entire ship get bombarded by drones and sorts of craziness off Norfolk and the public hasn't seen much of anything. Hopefully they're out there on some UAPTF's desk and just waiting to see the light of day.