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Tuskegee Airmen, an elite all African American fighter squadron
- Thread starter navydaughter
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I’m proudly Irish. And I am also a proud American. I am a U.S. citizen of Irish ancestry. I don’t consider myself an Irish-American. I consider myself an American whose ancestors came from Ireland. Had it not been for the British equivalent of genocide in the 19th century, I would still likely be an Irish citizen. But I would still be me.
But what difference does that all make?
I am also a former fighter pilot. I like fighter pilots, and respect the good ones, even be they friend or foe. My preference is for those on our side, obviously. But even those that I tried to kill, I still respect, and would like to meet and know years after.
I enjoyed that video of another fighter pilot. So should most. He was one of us. Where is the respect? All this other stuff is rubbish. That is all.
But what difference does that all make?
I am also a former fighter pilot. I like fighter pilots, and respect the good ones, even be they friend or foe. My preference is for those on our side, obviously. But even those that I tried to kill, I still respect, and would like to meet and know years after.
I enjoyed that video of another fighter pilot. So should most. He was one of us. Where is the respect? All this other stuff is rubbish. That is all.
navydaughter
Member
Yes! We are all Americans. I'm half Samoan, half English but if it weren't for my Scottish father and my German mother (both born in the US) adopting me at a year old, I am not sure what I would be. Still American, yes, but loved for being a child and not a color card is how I have always been to my WWII Navy Fighter Pilot father and Army Nurse mother!
MasterBates
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My roots come more from the Soviet Union than America.
Yet, I am am American.
This hypenated-American shit is BULLSHIT.
You are AMERICAN or you are NOT.
Yet, I am am American.
This hypenated-American shit is BULLSHIT.
You are AMERICAN or you are NOT.
Badass
Awesome…I'm sure you've succeeded…thanks for sharing.
I say Lucas is a clown because since the first turd of a pre-quel was released, he has been trying to exorcise the idea that he used racial caricatures in some of the really shitty characters like Jar Jar. It's been speculated that he wanted to make "Red Tails" to disabuse the notion that he was a racist, (which is an absurd notion) for a long time.
from our favorite reservoir of truth, Wiki:
After the release of the film, there was controversy over whether several alien characters reflected racial stereotypes, notably: the oafish, slow-witted Jar Jar Binks had long droopy ears reminiscent of dreadlocks and spoke with what many perceived as a Caribbean patois (particularly Jamaican Creole);[103] the greedy and corrupt Neimoidians of the Trade Federation spoke withEast Asian accents; and the unprincipled desert trader Watto has been interpreted as a Fagin-esque Jewish stereotype. Lucas has categorically denied all of these implications;[83] however, animator Rob Coleman admitted that he viewed footage of Alec Guinness as Fagin in Oliver Twist to inspire his animators in creating Watto.[104] Jar Jar Binks was described by one critic as "Servile and cowardly...a black minstrel-ish stereotype on par with Stepin Fetchit."[89] Michael Eric Dyson, professor of African-American studies at Georgetown University, observed that the entire Gungan people seem oddly suggestive of a primitive African tribe: "The leader of Jar Jar's tribe is a fat, bumbling buffoon with a rumbling voice, and he seems to be a caricature of a stereotypical African tribal chieftain."
from our favorite reservoir of truth, Wiki:
After the release of the film, there was controversy over whether several alien characters reflected racial stereotypes, notably: the oafish, slow-witted Jar Jar Binks had long droopy ears reminiscent of dreadlocks and spoke with what many perceived as a Caribbean patois (particularly Jamaican Creole);[103] the greedy and corrupt Neimoidians of the Trade Federation spoke withEast Asian accents; and the unprincipled desert trader Watto has been interpreted as a Fagin-esque Jewish stereotype. Lucas has categorically denied all of these implications;[83] however, animator Rob Coleman admitted that he viewed footage of Alec Guinness as Fagin in Oliver Twist to inspire his animators in creating Watto.[104] Jar Jar Binks was described by one critic as "Servile and cowardly...a black minstrel-ish stereotype on par with Stepin Fetchit."[89] Michael Eric Dyson, professor of African-American studies at Georgetown University, observed that the entire Gungan people seem oddly suggestive of a primitive African tribe: "The leader of Jar Jar's tribe is a fat, bumbling buffoon with a rumbling voice, and he seems to be a caricature of a stereotypical African tribal chieftain."
and he brought Ewoks and Jar Jar into the SW mythos.....
Fuck that was funny! I had forgotten that. Thanks for the laugh.
Relax, Swanee... that tale has now been replaced by the "newer tale"… that while "white fighter pilots" all deserted the bombers and went off chasing fighter kills, the 332nd Group were the first to "go all the way…up close and personal…and all the way back to the Channel".
We happy now?
You don't "get it' and I doubt any Tuskegee airman every bothered to explain "it" to you in that public setting. They were just being polite.
Having had a Tuskegee airman associated with my family for many decades, being sure not to forget what I should be thankful for today was drilled in my head pretty hard. So thanks, I'll continue to be a blowhard and be respectful of their sacrifices.
You know shit is getting serious when a South Park reference is made.
He must be super serial.