Picture the glass now only a 1/4 empty, and that will eventually mean less fun and more 'rules.' .
I guess that would be 3/4 empty...It wouldn't fill up again now would it? Too much beer this weekend...Sorry. I have a case of the Mondays.
Picture the glass now only a 1/4 empty, and that will eventually mean less fun and more 'rules.' .
You have been around the AF too much. That would be a CSO barracks, or BOQ. If they do put up their own money to build housing in Pcola the Navy should retain naming rights, just like on the big stadiums and arenas. That way we can be assured it will be a proper military facility, a barracks, or BOQ.
No. Shit no. I belive you would get your ass kicked saying something like that.I have a case of the Mondays.
Or Chief Staff Officer or Command Services Officer or......In sticking with the original post???
CSO is the Combat Systems Officer on a carrier. He/She is normally a well seasoned CDR, often LDO.
In sticking with the original post???
CSO is the Combat Systems Officer on a carrier. He/She is normally a well seasoned CDR, often LDO.
Are you saying they are getting trained at Pensacola now?
That article really sort of puts the AF mindset towards their Navs in black-and-white. There are Pilots and then there are Pilot's Little Helpers.
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I dunno, the AF caste system just really amazes me. I'm sure some of our AF bretheren will jump in here to tell me I'm wrong, and, seriously, please tell me if I am. It's just somehow I can't ever see them making a Nav the Chief of Staff or anything, but an NFO as CNO? Absolutely no reason why not. There's lots of folks with two anchors and stars out there now.
I've had plenty of WSO Squadron Commanders, Group Commanders, and Wing Commanders...and they've gone on to get plenty of stars and the like.
Interesting that you throw on the AF that there's a 'caste system'. From everything I've seen, the Navy treats their 'FOs like more of a 2nd class citizen than in the AF...at least in the fighter business. I had a Tomcat driver from Oceana who could not believe that I was letting my WSO draw the lines and debrief BFM...couldn't grasp that my back seater would possibly be able to understand what the pilots were doing and reconstruct it after the fact.
In the F-15E community, the line is really blurred between the front seaters and the back seaters. I have to actually look at a dude's wings half the time to remember which one he is. If there was truly a caste system as you say, then the 'B team' would be well known to the pilots.
I've had plenty of WSO Squadron Commanders, Group Commanders, and Wing Commanders...and they've gone on to get plenty of stars and the like.
Interesting that you throw on the AF that there's a 'caste system'. From everything I've seen, the Navy treats their 'FOs like more of a 2nd class citizen than in the AF...at least in the fighter business. I had a Tomcat driver from Oceana who could not believe that I was letting my WSO draw the lines and debrief BFM...couldn't grasp that my back seater would possibly be able to understand what the pilots were doing and reconstruct it after the fact.
In the F-15E community, the line is really blurred between the front seaters and the back seaters. I have to actually look at a dude's wings half the time to remember which one he is. If there was truly a caste system as you say, then the 'B team' would be well known to the pilots.
In sticking with the original post???
CSO is the Combat Systems Officer on a carrier. He/She is normally a well seasoned CDR, often LDO.
Are you saying they are getting trained at Pensacola now? I'll have to ask the CSO on 72 about that....
Now if you are talking TAO's, (which sounds like the equivelant to the AF CSO) and JO's, I could see that, certainly NOT Navy CSO's.