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Space Force Officer Relieved After Denouncing CRT/Marxism
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No, it is not Marxism but more importantly what you see in the intro isn’t remotely what he advocates. He promotes the demise of the individual actor (who creates or advances on his or her own merits) for the sake of a collective skin-tone that tells a singular “truth” (in this case truth means story). Much like Wilkerson’s book Caste (mentioned by Brett) most CRT sweep up what they call a “millennia of slavery” and sweep it into the dust bin of the United States (sounds a lot like the 1619 Project) laying all the blame there. Still, CRT is not Marxism and doesn’t pretend to be.
Wilkerson, Kendi, and Hannah-Jones all fail to make their story what it really is...global. There is a “caste” system based on the framework of “racism” in every human occupied space on this earth and it is critical to these authors that we ignore that part of the story because then we learn that...humans are fundamentally tribal and thereby racist. Yes, blacks can be and are racists, just ask any Hutu or Tutsi in Rwanda. Just ask any Korean or Chinese about the Japanese in WWII. Ask the Huron about the Iroquois....and so on and so forth. If that framework is real, then the basis of CRT is entirely flawed because it promotes total division through something as simple skin tone and appearance when the actual goal is to place what is ludicrously called “color” above what the equally comic concept of “whiteness.” As I noted before, CRT is the height of racism. It is as bad, and may become worse, that Jim Crow.
Agree that it is the height of racism. Disagree that it is not Marxist. I don’t care whether or not it pretends to be, but CRT is infused with Marxism.
Agreed.
And now, the American Medical Association has adopted CRT. They literally said in their announcement of this that treating everyone equal is unfair. This follows numerous cities having to backtrack on policies that openly offered the vaccine to non-Whites only in recent months.
Fairfax. I have kids and haven't seen it, and I've had plenty of chances to do so this past year.
It certainly is diverse in Fairfax County but that doesn't make it a bad thing, or mean that bad things are happening in the county or the school system.
I haven't seen this at all with my kids, and I haven't heard about that kind of stuff happening either in our local area. Could it be happening in individual classrooms in the county? Maybe, but it certainly isn't school policy in Fairfax.
There certainly has been some emphasis on teaching about different cultures, races, ethnicities and nationalities but I wouldn't expect anything less from a locality that has plenty of diversity in each amongst its population and that includes my local schools. But that is all it is, just teaching about it and not any sort of indoctrination or 'recruiting'. Teaching my youngest about Rosh Hashanah or Ramadan didn't turn my them off to bacon, just doesn't want to eat pigs any more because they are cute. They'll get over it.
It isn't my first rodeo with this stuff either as I got to learn some of the same stuff in school growing up in Prince George's County, so what my kids are learning isn't anything new or unusual it is just a bit more varied than what I got.
Like I said, with kids actually in the school system I haven't seen it.
Interesting. My sister is in fairfax and specifically mentioned to me that this (specifically CRT) has become an issue.
There was a survey that got sent out earlier this month asking parents about whether or not stuff along that lines should be taught, that might be what she is talking about. But that is all it was so far, a survey. There have been a couple of other bright ideas that have come up the past few years that have quickly died on the vine before they ever got implemented, while the county has become more liberal over the years there is a very significant military and government population along with some immigrant communities that temper some of the more idiotic ideas that have cropped up.
Watch better TV.
That's college, takes all types.
My German professor was definitely a fellow traveler, probably didn't have the guts to be a card carrying member. I didn't really care too much, commie or not he was an asshole and a crappy professor. Then there was also an openly socialist and feminist history teacher who taught the history of early warfare, loved making guys squirm when teaching about Sacred Band of Thebes and others like them.
But we also had folks on the other end of the spectrum too, to include the professor who had a huge portrait of Queen Elizabeth II in his classroom and taught us the South was right and regretted that they lost. Another kook but a great professor who invited his classes over for brandy and cigars.
There were also real 'winners' on the other end of the spectrum as well, and fascism also happened to be trendy in certain parts of society in that exact same time period. This included Americans openly supporting Nazi war criminals in their efforts to get released and rehabilitated to helping homegrown terrorists murder their fellow citizens of the 'wrong' skin color or those that supported them.
There are dangerous ideas out there.
RoarkJr.
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I didn't say we shouldn't have those professors. I became friends with one and the other was an advisor on a funded cybersecurity ethics paper I did. The point of bringing up the professors is to try and point to sources of a trend for those who want evidence, though I'm still not sure what hard evidence would look like. Personally I think the leader of BLM saying she's "a trained Marxist" is sufficient to get started.
I choose to see if I can make a difference rather than just changing the channel. Changing the channel becomes diffusion of responsibility which ultimately makes a bigger problem.
Words matter, and we don't always use them well. My dog-kicker is the contemporary use of the word "socialism" to imply that infrastructure, fire departments, and schools are "socialist." Nothing could be further from the truth. Here we are conflating the ideas of Marx (Marxism) with the actions of a Marxist-Leninist.
Marx developed an historical theory that viewed "material possessions" as the center of human development - and here is a five-second version. Whoever controls the production of various materials that maintain human life uses (abuses) the worker to increase profit (so they can obtain more material) and eventually becomes and enemy of the common person...who is trapped in a system that is designed to keep them down. Marx concluded that workers would eventually rise up and smite the owner and then just disperse the winnings to all. Marx also gave us the language of many modern "social justice" warriors like positive humanism, socialism, communism, and a realm of free individuality.
On its own Marxism is potentially meaningless, another socio-historic theory put out there to make academics think harder - and as such theory is pretty good stuff. But, facing the facts of nearly 170 years of history it is glaringly clear that Marx knew next to nothing about humans and human nature. This is why Marixism, as a form of government, has failed over and over again.
It was not the Marxist theory as expressed through communism is fundamentally in error, it was that communism is always compelled, rather than voluntary - because who would voluntarily surrender their individuality (that things that makes us an artist, dreamer, philosopher, and so on)? Today's Marxists will tell you that the fault is in "doers." They will say that only "the right kind" (typically they mean them...starting to see how power structures work?) can bring it to fruition. Historically (and theoretically) communism can only happen (and has only been attempted) without the infinite capacity and infinite hope that comes from working with and for something larger than the state (in most cases expressed in some form of religion) and thus becomes a mere movement of man, always, always consistent with the nature of man, which is imperfect, selfish, and self-rewarding.
Now dead, and even rising Neo-Marxist experiments involve(ed) human schemes that prohibit “anti-social behavior” and enforce codified “kindness” supported by informants and intimidation (social media anyone?); dedicated to enforcing a spirit-killing, drive-killing acquiescence but offered no hope for real communal living. Action compelled by government simply can never transcend itself, because the person has nothing to draw on from within, or look to from without. That, my friends, is the basis of human nature. We "hope" we can do better. We "want" more and will work for it (even as a criminal). We "love" our kith and kin because they give us support in our dreams. Marx didn't see any of that, and neither do any of the Neo-Marxists we see in academia today.
Long winded way to say...Marxism as a theory is well worth the read just as Modern Fascism is worth reading. In practice...both are crap.
Marx developed an historical theory that viewed "material possessions" as the center of human development - and here is a five-second version. Whoever controls the production of various materials that maintain human life uses (abuses) the worker to increase profit (so they can obtain more material) and eventually becomes and enemy of the common person...who is trapped in a system that is designed to keep them down. Marx concluded that workers would eventually rise up and smite the owner and then just disperse the winnings to all. Marx also gave us the language of many modern "social justice" warriors like positive humanism, socialism, communism, and a realm of free individuality.
On its own Marxism is potentially meaningless, another socio-historic theory put out there to make academics think harder - and as such theory is pretty good stuff. But, facing the facts of nearly 170 years of history it is glaringly clear that Marx knew next to nothing about humans and human nature. This is why Marixism, as a form of government, has failed over and over again.
It was not the Marxist theory as expressed through communism is fundamentally in error, it was that communism is always compelled, rather than voluntary - because who would voluntarily surrender their individuality (that things that makes us an artist, dreamer, philosopher, and so on)? Today's Marxists will tell you that the fault is in "doers." They will say that only "the right kind" (typically they mean them...starting to see how power structures work?) can bring it to fruition. Historically (and theoretically) communism can only happen (and has only been attempted) without the infinite capacity and infinite hope that comes from working with and for something larger than the state (in most cases expressed in some form of religion) and thus becomes a mere movement of man, always, always consistent with the nature of man, which is imperfect, selfish, and self-rewarding.
Now dead, and even rising Neo-Marxist experiments involve(ed) human schemes that prohibit “anti-social behavior” and enforce codified “kindness” supported by informants and intimidation (social media anyone?); dedicated to enforcing a spirit-killing, drive-killing acquiescence but offered no hope for real communal living. Action compelled by government simply can never transcend itself, because the person has nothing to draw on from within, or look to from without. That, my friends, is the basis of human nature. We "hope" we can do better. We "want" more and will work for it (even as a criminal). We "love" our kith and kin because they give us support in our dreams. Marx didn't see any of that, and neither do any of the Neo-Marxists we see in academia today.
Long winded way to say...Marxism as a theory is well worth the read just as Modern Fascism is worth reading. In practice...both are crap.
@Flash
I have a niece and nephew in Fairfax county so I got to hear a lot about the teachers union and now “equity” initiatives. That survey was an absolutely ridiculous example of how to force someone to provide the data you’re looking for. Should be more “anti-racist” or a LOT more “anti-racist”?
What do you think about Thomas Jefferson High School? I think changing the gifted magnet to a lottery system is great for “equity” and in no way defeats the purpose of a gifted magnet or punishes Asian and white students.
wtop.com
But hey, that’s not as bad as eliminating advanced classes in general if the students taking them are the wrong races. It’s hard to pull people up so let’s drag the “privileged” children down for “equity”.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
This is just the beginning.
I have a niece and nephew in Fairfax county so I got to hear a lot about the teachers union and now “equity” initiatives. That survey was an absolutely ridiculous example of how to force someone to provide the data you’re looking for. Should be more “anti-racist” or a LOT more “anti-racist”?
What do you think about Thomas Jefferson High School? I think changing the gifted magnet to a lottery system is great for “equity” and in no way defeats the purpose of a gifted magnet or punishes Asian and white students.
Fairfax Co. tweaks options for admission to prestigious Thomas Jefferson High School - WTOP News
The superintendent of Fairfax County Public Schools has offered two new options for admitting students to the highly sought-after Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in an attempt to increase diversity.
wtop.com
But hey, that’s not as bad as eliminating advanced classes in general if the students taking them are the wrong races. It’s hard to pull people up so let’s drag the “privileged” children down for “equity”.
Virginia to drop advanced math courses before 11th grade, citing 'equity'
The Virginia Department of Education is seeking to eliminate its accelerated math programs below 11th grade, citing “equity” as one of the catalysts for its changes to the mathematics curriculum. The change was presented in a Monday meeting and brought forth by Loudoun County School Board member...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
This is just the beginning.