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Space Force Officer Relieved After Denouncing CRT/Marxism
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Cool anecdote. I guess you speak for everyone. I have kids. So does my sister. She‘s seen it. Definitely an anecdote on my side too. But who cares if you personally haven’t seen it? It is There. That is incontrovertible. I don’t think @robav8r is a liar. Nor the thousands of parents who have seen what’s going on and are doing something about it. Like I said, a few seconds of trying on your own to verify what we’re saying will yield results.
It isn’t everywhere. But it is many places and the number is rising.
No disrespect intended, but you're not exactly what I would call an impartial, objective observer in such matters. I presume this kind of thing is studied by social scientists.
I hear you Brett, but again, you don’t have kids, right? My comments about the local school districts are based on several friends and associates whose kids are experiencing this. My son is out of college and thankfully, did not have to experience this.
Come on Pags, we both know your school district and what’s going on in Fairfax/Loudoun are quite a bit different, especially considering the demographics.
No, I don't have kids, but I think we established above that personal anecdotes are not helpful in understanding something as broad and diverse as the K-12 education system for a nation of 327 million people.
I'm sure that there are school districts whose curricula you, as a very conservative person, would object to. Likewise, there are also school districts whose curricula I, as a moderate, would object to as too conservative. It's tough to make much sense of any of it in a coherent way if we're relying on personal experience and the "many people are saying" form of argument. So, while there may be some pockets of left and right leaning schools, I suspect in the aggregate, the country is pretty baseline center.
For the sake of the Republic, I hope you are right Brett ?
The "red scare" was over wrought. But everyone forgets that real spies and traitors were rooted out during this period. Communism was very trendy among certain parts of society (just like hot buttons such as CRT). If you care to look beyond the indictment of some of excesses, you would find the motivation was valid and discouraging, exposing and prosecuting those individuals was valuable.
As to K-12 indoctrination, I find the word a bit problematic. But exposing children to radical thought does happen in many school districts at an age where the children are impressionable and have little exposure to critical thinking skills. Also a problem is teachers who are not equipped to answer questions about these subjects even if they try to be even handed and parents not even knowing what is being taught their children.
As a Blue and Gold Officer I have interviewed hundreds of the best HS seniors. I pride myself on vigorous thought provoking scenario based questions that make them sweat a bit. Even in that cohort I have noticed that I am getting more and more answers that come from the perspective of silly social science that permeates secondary education. Most recently, when I am getting at the link between privileges and responsibility in a leadership context, I frequently get a response based on what is being taught them about white privilege and inherent inequitable racial advantage. That is coming from school and we know what else must come in the white privilege block of instruction just to justify the theory.
As to K-12 indoctrination, I find the word a bit problematic. But exposing children to radical thought does happen in many school districts at an age where the children are impressionable and have little exposure to critical thinking skills. Also a problem is teachers who are not equipped to answer questions about these subjects even if they try to be even handed and parents not even knowing what is being taught their children.
As a Blue and Gold Officer I have interviewed hundreds of the best HS seniors. I pride myself on vigorous thought provoking scenario based questions that make them sweat a bit. Even in that cohort I have noticed that I am getting more and more answers that come from the perspective of silly social science that permeates secondary education. Most recently, when I am getting at the link between privileges and responsibility in a leadership context, I frequently get a response based on what is being taught them about white privilege and inherent inequitable racial advantage. That is coming from school and we know what else must come in the white privilege block of instruction just to justify the theory.
I think the important distinction is the severity of the “topics we don’t like.” Like you, as a center-right person I would object to certain curricula that are too conservative.
But I need to beat the drum again and ask that you consider the following: this time it IS different. This ideology is the most radical, and has the most potential for poisoning the minds of our youth and further dividing this society….and it IS gaining momentum. Please keep an open mind, don’t dismiss those you disagree with outright, do some independent research, and realize we are coming from the premise that this is a uniquely dangerous threat….and potentially an existential one in the very long term.
As I said. I am not hyperbolic. I don’t listen to Glenn beck or Tucker Carlson. I think the UFO stuff is silly too. I’d say those who know me would say I am an even keeled guy and reasonable, and definitely not crazy. But I do believe that this is different, toxic, and as Rob said….I hope you are right.
I agree with what Brett said above. I don't doubt that there are things that are happening in your kids school that don't align with your values. But I also remember parents in my HS having issues with the curriculum, and I also remember learning about the Scopes Monkey Trial. You guys are welcome to your opinions on the curriculum and are welcome to send your kids to a private school if you so like.
But based on the fact that this sort of values conflict is as old as time I don't see it as the end of our country. Despite reading Catcher In The Rye and listening to the best ever death metal band out of Denton and drawing the obligatory pentagrams and anarchist symbols on my notebooks I turned out ok.
You hit the nail on the head, but equality doesn’t matter anymore. Equity is what’s important now.
Yup, lots of school districts out there too. Some independent (legally speaking) , some not so. You might think there are enough variables to get the results you expect. BUT, you have just two major public school teacher unions and the text book industry is dominated by the requirements of just two states. Some of the top leaders of the teachers union in my city were avowed socialists.
Sweet Jesus Pags, that is NOT what I’m saying here. We have Elementary and High School programs that are asking Caucasian students to publically state they are “sorry” for their white privilege and will strive to atone for their white racist past. It’s happening, in more places than you realize. You might want to ask, specifically, if your kids teachers and administrators endorse this philosophy.
So now I'm very curious. If a Marxist revolution happened by rewriting the constitution almost completely, would you not see that as a failure on the behalf of all those who swore an oath to protect it? Or would you just be like, "cool, this is the same constitution, even though it's values are completely different, and I guess I'm a Marxist now. Go democracy!"