Solving the Navy's problems one RC squadron at a time

[Gatordev]

During an intermission at a NARG in 2015-ish, I was asking one of the NAVAIR guys about why we couldn't get new engines. He said they had done the initial EI and said to keep the existing tranny and not over-Tq it, the aircraft would need new blades. If I remember correctly, they're review was just looking at the Mike blades, but I'm guessing if they were truly going to re-engine them, they'd look at other options for thoroughness.

So is the 401D for FVL or potentially Seahawk? If you're able to say.

 

[IKE]

During an intermission at a NARG in 2015-ish, I was asking one of the NAVAIR guys about why we couldn't get new engines. He said they had done the initial EI and said to keep the existing tranny and not over-Tq it, the aircraft would need new blades. If I remember correctly, they're review was just looking at the Mike blades, but I'm guessing if they were truly going to re-engine them, they'd look at other options for thoroughness.

So is the 401D for FVL or potentially Seahawk? If you're able to say.

Seahawk. You should see a NATOPS IC this summer(ish). No notable change to performance, limits, etc. Happy to pass more specifics over NIPR.

 

[LAMPS Ninja]

Care to expand on that? Are the the 701s more delicate in the maritime environment? I get that to actually use them and still keep the same tranny, the blades would need to be changed, but was curious if there was something specific about 701s that make you say what you did.

When I was at the 60G schoolhouse, the canned response for that was that the fit tolerances were slightly different, presumably to permit more salt in the 401 vs 701 (or some kind of coating to limit the corrosion). Water washes only got performed every phase vs every day/60 hrs in the overland environment, but I’d imagine that they’d use a different schedule if operating from a ship for more than a few days.

 

[ea6bflyr]

This thread has gone way off track. @Gatordev thread split?

 

[Gatordev]

When I was at the 60G schoolhouse, the canned response for that was that the fit tolerances were slightly different, presumably to permit more salt in the 401 vs 701 (or some kind of coating to limit the corrosion). Water washes only got performed every phase vs every day/60 hrs in the overland environment, but I’d imagine that they’d use a different schedule if operating from a ship for more than a few days.

And yet, somehow shaft rub is still a problem. I kid...kind of.

This thread has gone way off track. @Gatordev thread split?

Well that was painful.

 

[red_stang65]

Air Boss’s letter in the latest Rotor Review ahead of the 2023 NHA Symposium is interesting. Nice shoutout to Navy Reserve units!

Only…5 of the 6 units he references are either already closed (HSC/HSM SAUs, both TSUs closed in 2021), or about to close (HSC-85 this year). So much for that “Total Force” or that “incredible level of skill and experience.”

What’s the over-under on HSM-60 getting cut next? They narrowly dodged a bullet only a few years ago…

 

[insanebikerboy]

Air Boss’s letter in the latest Rotor Review ahead of the 2023 NHA Symposium is interesting. Nice shoutout to Navy Reserve units!

Only…5 of the 6 units he references are either already closed (HSC/HSM SAUs, both TSUs closed in 2021), or about to close (HSC-85 this year). So much for that “Total Force” or that “incredible level of skill and experience.”

What’s the over-under on HSM-60 getting cut next? They narrowly dodged a bullet only a few years ago… View attachment 38190

Talk about being out of touch.

Even if he didn’t specifically know these units went away (which I doubt, AirBoss is a sharp dude), his staff absolutely should’ve known.

And for the guys in these units, of whom I know quite a few, what a slap in the face. Get specific recognition from the boss for your experience and value to then get shut down.

 

[red_stang65]

@insanebikerboy, my sentiments exactly. I mean, he’s gotta know, right? Or at least his staff or whoever wrote/edited the piece?

Worst case, if neither he nor his team were tracking, then what does that say about the coordination between CNAF and CNAFR? Yikes… ??‍♂️

 

[croakerfish]

Air Boss’s letter in the latest Rotor Review ahead of the 2023 NHA Symposium is interesting. Nice shoutout to Navy Reserve units!

Only…5 of the 6 units he references are either already closed (HSC/HSM SAUs, both TSUs closed in 2021), or about to close (HSC-85 this year). So much for that “Total Force” or that “incredible level of skill and experience.”

What’s the over-under on HSM-60 getting cut next? They narrowly dodged a bullet only a few years ago… View attachment 38190

Oh cool don’t even mention the only HSC reserve unit that we still have.

 

[red_stang65]

Oh cool don’t even mention the only HSC reserve unit that we still have.

Right? SCORE/FSD does a lot of great work for SUBFOR, but probably doesn’t get a lot of love since they can’t deploy or offload much else from AC HSC. Unsung heroes offloading tasking from the AC, though.

 

[red_stang65]

So, it looks like the shutdown of HSC-85 is finally happening (here).

But wait, there’s more:

 

[insanebikerboy]

So, it looks like the shutdown of HSC-85 is finally happening (here).

But wait, there’s more:
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The squadron is going away 30 Sep. So the Navy’s answer to point 1 is ‘they don’t exist anymore’.

The rest of the points the Navy can just be like ‘oh, we’re good’.