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- Thread starter jollygreen07
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I just wanted to bring up this chart on recent and projected spending under different scenarios.
Source: Reason.com
I wonder... in what part of the graph would funding for important stuff like Fashion Advice at the DIA: 'Makeup Makes You More Attractive' fall?
(Good post, BTW.)
That was just some pinhead holding an informal PME. It got blown way out of proportion. Shocker.
Ah- fair enough.
Not at all. In that situation, as far as any of us knew, the hiring was only from a limited pool of relatively equal-level candidates, even advertised as an internal hire only, and I happened to be particularly qualified based on my schooling, internships, and work already done for the org., and made a really good impression on the HR folks doing the interviews. The job as described was as a #2 in another (better) sales department, mostly doing the sales support work that would be suited to my level of experience. One could suggest that they were humoring me and I've got my head stuck up somewhere, but that's really not the vibe I got. Anyway, HR lady calls me back and says the 2nd round interview would've been the next day, except that somebody higher-up called up some other guy who had never been in this company, but had 10ish years experience doing similar work elsewhere. She seemed genuinely disappointed and a little embarrassed, but I appreciated the notification.
All I'm saying is that, as I understood it, I was more or less a perfectly suitable candidate, already available and on staff, with less baggage and lower cost requirements; generally what seems to be logical for a business. They went another direction, and I can completely understand the argument for productivity expectations based on experience. I'm sure it's a good move for them. For me, it was a solid indicator that what I needed was a place, like the Navy, that is willing and able to take somebody with no experience and turn them into something useful. In my position, the admin BS is worth the benefit of getting a start. In 8 years, that'll probably look a lot different. Just illustrating that the greenness of the grass is a matter of perspective.
MasterBates
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I'm in agreement with Trader for the most part.
The $135k is probably accurate for DC or Calif.
Houston, you can probably match LT standard of living on $95-100 or so.
I have a slightly better standard of living, but my gross income is north of 100k and I live in Wyoming.
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The $135k is probably accurate for DC or Calif.
Houston, you can probably match LT standard of living on $95-100 or so.
I have a slightly better standard of living, but my gross income is north of 100k and I live in Wyoming.
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Bullshit.
I say again.
Bullshit.
I just jumped ship as you out it, there are quite a few jobs out there. I ranked mine from location, pays ale, pain vs fun factor etc. I had more than a few job offers and I didn't really try that hard.
I have many friends that have just gotten out of the service also. A number more successful than me with the transition. I am making a lot more $$$ than I did a few months ago. I don't take my job home with me. I don't work long hours. I don't have the wing or big navy bothering me with stupid reports or briefs. "But USFF needs this info NOW, even though it is a weekend and the staff won't look at it till Monday".
You lose your tax breaks, but you more than make up for it with other portability options and control of your 401k and stock options. As always, just depends on how sweet of a deal you get hired with.
But once again with emphasis I will call bullshit on your post. An officer with a well put together resume and basic networking skills will not do poorly in today's job market.
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As a guy who got out as an 8 year Lt in 95 in DC that number was $52K so I guess you guys have done real well on AD.
Happy to discuss post career options for people. You have a technical degree and a clearance I have multiple openings and can beat that.
phrogpilot73
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This. A lot of people in the military underestimate just how important this is for a job search. Got a guy in the squadron who's taking the early retirement, and has been by name requested to be hired by the lead of one of the departments in DynCorp. Never mind the fact that he's got H-3, H-60, H-46 and other time under his belt, and that his flight hours (all turbine helo) are north of 3500. Throw in an ATP(H) and he could pretty much choose the jobs he wanted.
If you're getting out as a mid-grade O-3 it may take a little bit more work on your part than a guy who's retiring, but it can still be done. One of my wife's sailors is getting out, and guess what? A corporate recruiter from Amazon has her resume and has done a phone interview, as well as a VP of Sirius/XM and others... How did a CTM1 get her resume looked at so quickly by those people? All of the aforementioned are classmates of mine from USNA, one of whom shot me an email asking if i knew anyone with the right qualifications. Networking is HUGE.
I ain't moving to Maryland...
phrogpilot73
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Is a degree a requirement, or is working towards one good enough? Wife's sailor is a CTR1 who is a little over halfway done working on her degree, and based on her rate - I'm sure she's got the requisite clearance... Want her resume?Don't blame you. Got anything for me outside Md?
If not a degree then have to be close enough to have a date for it before they'll consider it. It's the nature of the quasi-academic-centric research work that they insist on it. Happy to talk to her when she gets closer.
MasterBates
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Here is what I had for job offers post Navy-
Me- Bachelors in Mechanical Engineering, 5+ years experience pre-Navy (3 as +intern, 2 as engineer), background as welder and heavy truck mechanic.
Commercial, Multi Engine, Helo, Instrument Airplane/Helo
Current 1st Class medical
ATP eligible, but no ATP
1850ish USN hours. about 1000 of that FW.
350 PIC hours between helo and FW, but very few FW.. 60 or so without looking at logbook. Maybe 100 at he highest. Log's at home and I'm on the road.
LockMart, Grumman, most other big defense contractors- Applied to great HR monolith (website) got about jack and shit, even with tailored resumes. Got a couple time late (like 5 months after applying) calls from LockMart and Grumman for different jobs.
Other jobs applied to
Caterpillar (know nobody personally, kmac has a friend who works there I talked to post interview).
$83k/plus up to $20k "pay at risk" (based on group performance over FY) Offer, but issues with relocation package. I turned down offer due to them pulling the relo stated in my offer when their third party company (paragon) said I don't get it because the Navy will "pay all expenses" (offer included home buyout in Norfolk)
John Deere (3 fraternity brothers work there).. $74k offer with effective raise to $81k in a year with stock plan that kicks in one year in. Declined due to higher paying offer. Almost took it. (cost of living is LOW in Dubuque, IA, and close enough to Chicago for entertainment)
L3/Avenge/Sierra Nevada and pretty much every other decently known overseas flying gig.. No interviews, but feedback on low TT and PIC Time.
Evergreen and Columbia. Ok with time, not OK with lack of currency in helos.
Regionals.. Applied to two, called for interviews after I got current job. Would have had to SELTAR and eat Ramen to make it work. Decided it's not worth it to fly for regional pay.. If I was retired, with a pension, different story.
Rolls-Royce.. Initially no offer, but 2 months post interview offer. $73k in Indianapolis, not enough to have to live there for me.
Oilfield Services Company. Base salary close to offers from JD and RR, but with field pay that about doubles pay when on the road. Made a legit $125k+ in my first year. Upside.. Pay and interesting work. Downside? 315 days on the road in 2012.
Me- Bachelors in Mechanical Engineering, 5+ years experience pre-Navy (3 as +intern, 2 as engineer), background as welder and heavy truck mechanic.
Commercial, Multi Engine, Helo, Instrument Airplane/Helo
Current 1st Class medical
ATP eligible, but no ATP
1850ish USN hours. about 1000 of that FW.
350 PIC hours between helo and FW, but very few FW.. 60 or so without looking at logbook. Maybe 100 at he highest. Log's at home and I'm on the road.
LockMart, Grumman, most other big defense contractors- Applied to great HR monolith (website) got about jack and shit, even with tailored resumes. Got a couple time late (like 5 months after applying) calls from LockMart and Grumman for different jobs.
Other jobs applied to
Caterpillar (know nobody personally, kmac has a friend who works there I talked to post interview).
$83k/plus up to $20k "pay at risk" (based on group performance over FY) Offer, but issues with relocation package. I turned down offer due to them pulling the relo stated in my offer when their third party company (paragon) said I don't get it because the Navy will "pay all expenses" (offer included home buyout in Norfolk)
John Deere (3 fraternity brothers work there).. $74k offer with effective raise to $81k in a year with stock plan that kicks in one year in. Declined due to higher paying offer. Almost took it. (cost of living is LOW in Dubuque, IA, and close enough to Chicago for entertainment)
L3/Avenge/Sierra Nevada and pretty much every other decently known overseas flying gig.. No interviews, but feedback on low TT and PIC Time.
Evergreen and Columbia. Ok with time, not OK with lack of currency in helos.
Regionals.. Applied to two, called for interviews after I got current job. Would have had to SELTAR and eat Ramen to make it work. Decided it's not worth it to fly for regional pay.. If I was retired, with a pension, different story.
Rolls-Royce.. Initially no offer, but 2 months post interview offer. $73k in Indianapolis, not enough to have to live there for me.
Oilfield Services Company. Base salary close to offers from JD and RR, but with field pay that about doubles pay when on the road. Made a legit $125k+ in my first year. Upside.. Pay and interesting work. Downside? 315 days on the road in 2012.
phrogpilot73
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'Cause Lucas is the ONLY way to find a job...
