In those comparisons, were big-ticket ICE repairs included in the cost too? Engines and transmissions don't last forever...
Properly cared for, an engine and transmission lasts longer than an EV battery pack. And although power and drive train maintenance costs should be lower for an EV, engines and transmissions rarely need to be replaced in their entirety, but battery packs do.
Well, I suppose it depends on the powertrain in question: there have been loads of horrendous (for owners) recalls over the years... just google engine or transmission class action law suit.
Of course. And ignoring the cost of a battery replacement for everyday maintenance costs right up to that point is misleading as well. Not to speak of how typical use of an EV effects it's battery life and range(heat and ac anyone, hills and cold weather). No one really trusts those EPA numbers on the sticker of a car, but they will believe almost anything they are told about range and battery life.
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The difference is that most engines are designed to last decades with moderate maintenance at regular intervals. Electric cars require a replacement of the entire battery pack every 5-7 years and I believe the running cost for a Tesla is roughly $20k for the battery pack replacement. Compare that to engine work which is maybe $3-5k or you can get an entirely brand new engine for about $10k. The economy of electric cars just isn't there.
I was having a few drinks at the local distillery with one of the regulars and we were talking about the issues with various cars basically what he often sees that needs to be replaced in newer cars, he has worked for Subaru, Toyota, and Nissan over the past several years. I asked if he had worked on any EV's and he had done some basic work but what was said was you don't want to be the owner of an EV if a battery back needs to be replaced.Nope, he's thinking of California.
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Also, California (Among many other states) is increasing fees and the Biden Administration is looking into the feasibility of a per mile road usage tax in order to make up for losses in fuel tax collections.
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The difference is that most engines are designed to last decades with moderate maintenance at regular intervals. Electric cars require a replacement of the entire battery pack every 5-7 years and I believe the running cost for a Tesla is roughly $20k for the battery pack replacement. Compare that to engine work which is maybe $3-5k or you can get an entirely brand new engine for about $10k. The economy of electric cars just isn't there.
Decades? Really? That sounds incredibly optimistic. I'll grant you one decade. I drove my first Jeep for 16 years and about 190K miles, and that is WAY longer than most people keep their cars, and very few people are going to spend 10K to put a new engine in an older car... they're just going to buy something else.Nope, he's thinking of California.
FACT CHECK: Is California asking residents to avoid charging electric cars amid power grid strain?
"California Asks Residents to Avoid Charging Electric Cars Amid Power Grid Strain," reads the headline shared on Facebook in recent days, as gas prices in the country soar. Here's what you need to know.
California, Facing Power Crisis, Frets Over Electric Car Charging Routines
Power grid operators encouraged Californians to charge their electric vehicles before energy conservation blocks set in during the state's latest heat wave.
Also, California (Among many other states) is increasing fees and the Biden Administration is looking into the feasibility of a per mile road usage tax in order to make up for losses in fuel tax collections.
California starts charging EV registration fees up to $175 in July
An EV worth $5,000 will pay a $25 fee. The amount climbs up to $175 per year for a plug-in electric vehicle worth $60,000 and higher.
Mileage tax study, not actual mileage tax, proposed in infrastructure bill
As members of Congress mull a bipartisan, $1 trillion infrastructure bill that was approved by the Senate in August, social media users are misrepresenting one aspect of the massive legislation.
The difference is that most engines are designed to last decades with moderate maintenance at regular intervals. Electric cars require a replacement of the entire battery pack every 5-7 years and I believe the running cost for a Tesla is roughly $20k for the battery pack replacement. Compare that to engine work which is maybe $3-5k or you can get an entirely brand new engine for about $10k. The economy of electric cars just isn't there.
That would be a good warranty, but someone is going to pay for a new battery or the car becomes disposable relatively early compared to gas cars. True lots of folks get new cars before 150K, but people buy those used and drive them into the ground. There is a market for anything that moves on 4 wheels regardless of condition or appearance. But it has to drive. When we have thousands of EVs timing out their batteries we will see what the economics are with real Iive consumers in the market.
Not sure where this person's getting the data from. At roughly $0.50 per kwh, it would cost $50 to "fill" a model S for about 300-350 miles of range in California where the bill is being discussed if not for government subsidies masking the true cost of energy for electric vehicles. Gas prices are wonky now, but when they come down to normal that's no cheaper than any other gasoline fueled sedan that usually gets between $350-400 miles per 12 gal tank.The actual energy is quite a bit cheaper for electricity.
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Driving with electricity is much cheaper than with gasoline » Yale Climate Connections
Electricity prices are relatively cheap and stable, compared to the rising price of gasoline at the pump.yaleclimateconnections.org
Do you use a different PG&E than this one:
