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Random Griz Aviation Musings
- Thread starter Griz882
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Yes.
I believe the Air Force CSO training squadron is completely separate and its own independent tenant at NAS Pensacola
ABMD
Bullets don't fly without Supply
My last command was DLA HQ, those mail robots are still there.
True, the AF’s 479th FTG is flying Blue & White T-6s while the Navy’s TW-6 is flying Orange and White T-6s. Both at NAS Pensacola.
VT-10’s T-6s were blue and white until a few years ago.
Do they share aircraft and maintenance? In other words, might a Navy crew check out an AF plane in a feel-good “jointly” way and is the contract the same vendor for both services?
No. Two completely separate entities.
That would make too much sense….but sadly the two services and thusly the two pots of money shall never cross.
CSO/NFO shared training was the last of that great experiment in joint service combined flight training between AF and Navy. Although I have a number of AF C-130 types at work that look fondly at their days at VT-31 flying the T-44 - they always talk with amazement how different the flying culture was coming from AF T-6 UPT.
In the end it was these culture differences that doomed any further shared undergraduate flight training between AF and Navy.
In the end it was these culture differences that doomed any further shared undergraduate flight training between AF and Navy.
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Well, it’s isn’t completely dead. The AF and Navy still send IPs to fly at each other’s Primary Squadrons. The AF to VT-3 at Whiting and the Navy to Vance.
Thanks @jollygreen07 - did not realize that was still going on. Our new DO and our current CC were both IP's @ VT-3. But I figured that exchange IP program died a few years ago when the joint training ended. Thats great to hear!!
Still, it seems more “combined” than “joint.”
Griz I think its probably less than even "combined" - the training syllabuses and approach are very different at the pilot level. It is refreshing that AF and Navy cross pollinate IP's though - those connections last and pay off in spades operationally down the line. e.g. P-8 folks knowing the crews that are refueling them - "hey I was an IP with that guy/gal in the VT's back when", etc. (or fellow students at xxx war/staff college) That is super valuable in my rather insignificant-to-anyone opinion.
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