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No more 'Ouija' Board

JIMC5499

ex-Mech
I can see it now. Right in the middle of heavy cyclic ops the blue screen of death shows up in Flight Deck Control. Ten minutes later there is a $2 million dollar splash off the starboard side. The old Ouija Board is back the next day.
 

Flugelman

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I can see it now. Right in the middle of heavy cyclic ops the blue screen of death shows up in Flight Deck Control. Ten minutes later there is a $2 million dollar splash off the starboard side. The old Ouija Board is back the next day.

More likely, all the Hummers on the flight deck will show up as helos in the hangar bay and F/A-18's as Hoovers on the foul line... Same result tho, BIG splash. :D
 

HeyJoe

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Still alive and well

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091210-N-0808V-031 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Dec. 10, 2009) Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Handling) Airman Jessica Rocha communicates on a sound powered telephone and moves an aircraft template on a map of the flight deck in flight deck control aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70). Carl Vinson is underway conducting flight deck certifications. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ashley Van Dien/Released)
 

HeyJoe

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091116-N-2475A-066 PACIFIC OCEAN (Nov. 16, 2009) Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Handling) Airman Courteney Smith, from Oxford, Ohio, moves an aircraft on the Ouija board in hangar deck control aboard the aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74). The Ouija board is used to show the location of aircraft in the hangar deck. John C. Stennis and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 9 are participating in a strike group sustainment exercise off the coast of Southern California. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Kenneth Abbate/ Released)
 

HeyJoe

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090928-N-8132M-027 U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (Sept. 28, 2009) Aviation Boatswain's Mate 3rd Class Charline Blades, from Queens, N.Y., moves aircraft templates around the Ouija board in the flight deck control station aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Bataan (LHD 5). The Bataan Amphibious Ready Group is deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Kiona Miller/Released)
 

HeyJoe

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090930-N-2918M-024 INDIAN OCEAN (Sept. 30, 2009) Chief Aviation Boatswains Mate (Handling) Jorge Sanders adjusts planes on the Ouija Board in hangar bay control aboard the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN 68). The Nimitz Carrier Strike Group is on a routine deployment to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Peter Merrill/Released)
 

HeyJoe

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090721-N-4995K-002 GULF OF OMAN (July 21, 2009) Aviation Electronics Technician Airman Patricia Hansen moves aircraft templates around the Ouija board in flight deck control aboard the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76). Flight deck control is responsible for all movement of aircraft on the flight deck. The Ouija board is a scale model of the flight deck. Ronald Reagan is deployed in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Chelsea Kennedy/Released)

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090716-N-6233C-155 PACIFIC OCEAN (July 16, 2009) Lt. Cmdr. Eric Harrington, aircraft handling officer, aboard the aircraft carrier USS George Washington (CVN 73), explains the positioning of planes on the flight deck using the Ouija board to Australian government officials and other guests. George Washington is participating in Talisman Saber 09, participating in Talisman Saber 2009, a biennial joint military exercise between the U.S. and Australia focusing on operational and tactical interoperability. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Apprentice Rachel N. Clayton/Released)

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090218-N-5251G-964 PACIFIC OCEAN (February 18, 2009) Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Handling) 2nd Class Philip Gonzales posts the location of aircraft on the Ouija board in flight deck control aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76). The Ouija board is a miniature model of the Ronald Reagan and shows all the aircraft flying and landing on the ship. Ronald Reagan is performing Fleet Replacement Squadron Carrier Qualifications in the Pacific Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Rosalie Garcia/Released)

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081115-N-6538W-158 PACIFIC OCEAN (Nov. 15, 2008) Chief Aviation Boatswain's Mate Keith Miller, from St. Louis, Mo., organizes aircraft templates on the "Ouija Board" in flight deck control aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74). Stennis is operating off the coast of Southern California after completing a joint task force exercise. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Walter M. Wayman/ Released)
 

helolumpy

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I was on the Kennedy when we switched from the guy writing backwards on the grease board to the computerized system.
On the third day it crashed and we had to kill flight ops and Air Ops had no idea who was airborne and how much gas anyone had.
Fast forward a few years and the system now runs without a hitch.
Yes, there will be some growing pains, but they'll all get worked out.
Everytime we move to new technology everyone fears the worst.... but as I said, once we get past the initial hiccups, it will all be good to go.

On a side note, the 'little plastic airplanes' are cut to an exacting scale that the Navy ends up paying about $20 for each little airplane.
Someone somewhere made a ton of cash, but now the well has gone dry!
 

Brett327

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NALCOMIS has been replaced my MSHARP and OOMA. Funny thing is, as I was signing for a jet the other day, I overheard the lance corporal underground talking about changes that are already coming down the pipe for our new systems. I really don't mind MSHARP, mainly since I will have an online version of my logbook available. OOMA, however, is a huge pain in the ass.

FYI, OOMA is still NALCOMIS. It just went from "OMA" to "OOMA."

Brett
 

Kycntryboy

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On a side note, the 'little plastic airplanes' are cut to an exacting scale that the Navy ends up paying about $20 for each little airplane.
Someone somewhere made a ton of cash, but now the well has gone dry!

The benefits, I feel are that there is [I would think] no to very little upkeep cost for the old system, with all the $20 birds being paid off, and that your not depending on a computer to get all the 101010's right. I have a hard time understanding why paying someone to create and upkeep a program is more cost-effective. I haven't been on a carrier computer yet, but I would think they have the same pain in the ass computers that are indigenous to the squadrons. Unless they strip those computers to only run that program it will be bad when "update" and "Restart Now" boxes pop up every 5 minutes. I haven't been there yet, so as always I could be completely talking out my ass.
 

scoolbubba

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Why couldn't we just make stencils of them, set them up in the PCola woodworking shop and require A pool to make them. Every Ensign does an hour of bandsaw work, voila...Ouija board pieces for all eternity! Attrition would be taken care of too, with the idiots who can't use a bandsaw without cutting their thumbs off redesignating or leaving the Canoe club!
 

A4sForever

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... I feel are that there is ... no to very little upkeep cost for the old system.... I have a hard time understanding why paying someone to create and upkeep a program is more cost-effective....
It's (the digitalization of the Ouija Board) not cost effective ... it's just 'new & improved'.

The 'ol system worked on Saturday, Sunday, holidays and Tuesdays ... as well as every other day/week/month/year in between ... the guys who did it/ran it were EXPERTS and never, NOT ONCE in my experience on 8 BOATs did FLIGHT DECK CONTROL ever fall down on the job.

Show me a 'computer' w/ as good a record and I'll buy it or eat it.
 

BigIron

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Why couldn't we just make stencils of them, set them up in the PCola woodworking shop and require A pool to make them. Every Ensign does an hour of bandsaw work, voila...Ouija board pieces for all eternity! Attrition would be taken care of too, with the idiots who can't use a bandsaw without cutting their thumbs off redesignating or leaving the Canoe club!

Then we couldn't employ the fine Americans working in Lakehurst, NJ on this stuff.

I believe this ADMACS thing will eventually happen. Just like ISIS, the automated JP5 system, the LSO HUD, computer managed arresting gear, Moriah wind system and computerized navigation. Folks will get used to it and then be unable to work without it.

The name of the game is replacing people (salaries, benefits, retirements) with automation. ADMACs will save the Navy 2 blue shirts in flight deck control (those that actually move the little planes around). Right or wrong, it's about the dollars.
 
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