jboomer said:
I know why it was done. I remember the mod stating it was because he was tired of people reviving old threads. Personally, I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. Just someone wanting to exercise control when none was needed.
No, that is not completely accurate. Here, I'll give you the link for your reference that you can peruse to refresh your memory.
http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/sh...953&postcount=4
A couple points to consider here. First, it isn't just some random moderator, or as you put it, "some dipstick with mod powers" going through old threads and locking them. This is a Webmester level decision to have old threads (those without any posts for >30 days) to be
automatically locked. This in turn, is designed to help make this site run better and smoother for you, the customer. Your displeasure with the system now in place has been noted.
jboomer said:
Thanks for chiming in Steve! As always your posts are both informative and lacking in sarcasm! Mind not threadjacking my thread anymore?
Your initial post in this thread was disrespectful and in my eyes directed at the Webmaster. As a result, you received a less than helpful response from me, laced with a trace of sarcasm. As for not threadjacking your thread anymore, request denied.
jboomer said:
My question: after winging, we qualify for a Commercial License/Instrument Rating. With that said, what are the requirements necessary to complete in order for said aviator to go to the local FBO and rent a small Cessna? Do we need a certain number of hours in that airplane or just a fam flight with an instructor? Also, with those requirements (if there are any) met, are we then legal to take that a/c into IFR?
Maybe you know this, maybe you don't. I'm still unsure. However, I'll post here (for you or anyone else) what took me two minutes to look up.
TITLE 14--AERONAUTICSAND SPACE
CHAPTER I--FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
(CONTINUED)
PART 61--CERTIFICATION: PILOTS, FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS, AND GROUND INSTRUCTORS--Table of Contents
Subpart B--Aircraft Ratings and Pilot Authorizations
Sec. 61.73 Military pilots or former military pilots: Special rules.
(a) General. Except for a rated military pilot or former rated
military pilot who has been removed from flying status for lack of
proficiency, or because of disciplinary action involving aircraft
operations, a rated military pilot or former rated military pilot who
meets the applicable requirements of this section may apply, on the
basis of his or her military training, for:
(1) A commercial pilot certificate;
(2) An aircraft rating in the category and class of aircraft for
which that military pilot is qualified;
(3) An instrument rating with the appropriate aircraft rating for
which that military pilot is qualified; or
(4) A type rating, if appropriate.
(b) Military pilots on active flying status within the past 12
months. A rated military pilot or former rated military pilot who has
been on active flying status within the 12 months before applying must:
(1) Pass a knowledge test on the appropriate parts of this chapter
that apply to pilot privileges and limitations, air traffic and general
operating rules, and accident reporting rules;
(2) Present documentation showing compliance with the requirements
of paragraph (d) of this section for at least one aircraft category
rating; and
(3) Present documentation showing that the applicant is or was, at
any time during the 12 calendar months before the month of application--
(i) A rated military pilot on active flying status in an armed force
of the United States; or
(ii) A rated military pilot of an armed force of a foreign
contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation,
assigned to pilot duties (other than flight training) with an armed
force of the United States and holds, at the time of application, a
current civil pilot license issued by that contracting State authorizing
at least the privileges of the pilot certificate sought.
(c) Military pilots not on active flying status during the 12
calendar months before the month of application. A rated military pilot
or former rated military pilot who has not been on active flying status
within the 12 calendar months before the month of application must:
(1) Pass the appropriate knowledge and practical tests prescribed in
this part for the certificate or rating sought; and
(2) Present documentation showing that the applicant was, before the
beginning of the 12th calendar month before the month of application, a
rated military pilot as prescribed by paragraph (b)(3)(i) or paragraph
(b)(3)(ii) of this section.
(d) Aircraft category, class, and type ratings. A rated military
pilot or former rated military pilot who applies for an aircraft
category, class, or type rating, if applicable, is issued that rating at
the commercial pilot certificate level if the pilot presents documentary
evidence that shows satisfactory accomplishment of:
(1) An official U.S. military pilot check and instrument proficiency
check in that aircraft category, class, or type, if applicable, as pilot in command during the 12 calendar
months before the month of application;
(2) At least 10 hours of pilot-in-command time in that aircraft
category, class, or type, if applicable, during the 12 calendar months
before the month of application; or
(3) An FAA practical test in that aircraft after--
(i) Meeting the requirements of paragraphs (b)(1) and (b)(2) of this
section; and
(ii) Having received an endorsement from an authorized instructor
who certifies that the pilot is proficient to take the required
practical test, and that endorsement is made within the 60-day period
preceding the date of the practical test.
(e) Instrument rating. A rated military pilot or former rated
military pilot who applies for an airplane instrument rating, a
helicopter instrument rating, or a powered-lift instrument rating to be
added to his or her commercial pilot certificate may apply for an
instrument rating if the pilot has, within the 12 calendar months
preceding the month of application:
(1) Passed an instrument proficiency check by a U.S. Armed Force in
the aircraft category for the instrument rating sought; and
(2) Received authorization from a U.S. Armed Force to conduct IFR
flights on Federal airways in that aircraft category and class for the
instrument rating sought.
(f) Aircraft type rating. An aircraft type rating is issued only for
aircraft types that the Administrator has certificated for civil
operations.
(g) Aircraft type rating placed on an airline transport pilot
certificate. A rated military pilot or former rated military pilot who
holds an airline transport pilot certificate and who requests an
aircraft type rating to be placed on that person's airline transport
pilot certificate may be issued that aircraft type rating at the airline
transport pilot certificate level, provided that person:
(1) Holds a category and class rating for that type of aircraft at
the airline transport pilot certificate level; and
(2) Passed an official U.S. military pilot check and instrument
proficiency check in that type of aircraft as pilot in command during
the 12 calendar months before the month of application.
(h) Evidentiary documents. The following documents are satisfactory
evidence for the purposes indicated:
(1) An official identification card issued to the pilot by an armed
force may be used to demonstrate membership in the armed forces.
(2) An original or a copy of a certificate of discharge or release
may be used to demonstrate discharge or release from an armed force or
former membership in an armed force.
(3) Current or previous status as a rated military pilot with a U.S.
Armed Force may be demonstrated by--
(i) An official U.S. Armed Force order to flight status as a
military pilot;
(ii) An official U.S. Armed Force form or logbook showing military
pilot status; or
(iii) An official order showing that the rated military pilot
graduated from a U.S. military pilot school and received a rating as a
military pilot.
(4) A certified U.S. Armed Force logbook or an appropriate official
U.S. Armed Force form or summary may be used to demonstrate flight time
in military aircraft as a member of a U.S. Armed Force.
(5) An official U.S. Armed Force record of a military checkout as
pilot in command may be used to demonstrate pilot in command status.
(6) A current instrument grade slip that is issued by a U.S. Armed
Force, or an official record of satisfactory accomplishment of an
instrument proficiency check during the 12 calendar months preceding the
month of the application may be used to demonstrate instrument pilot
qualification.
jboomer said:
I did that. The chick working the phones couldn't answer my questions so she gave me the number to the two local instructors. I guess both of them work real jobs during the day as I was unable to get either of them on the phone. Knowing that this board is frequented by "aviators" I suspected I could get pretty darn close to some good gouge.
After my initial read-through of the thread, I thought you wanted to know what the regs are for getting your certificates so that you'd be eligible to go to an FBO and rent an aircraft. However, after my second read-through, my understanding is that you already know what the regs say and what the procedures are. You just didn't/don't know what you need to do in order to actually rent from the FBO. If that's the case, then the FSDO won't have a clue, nor will anyone on this board unless someone here rents from the same FBO that you intend to rent from. Every FBO I've ever rented from has had their own procedures for renting their aircraft. If you just want to fly VFR, you'll probably have no problems. If you intend to fly IFR, the FBO may require a certain number of hours in the aircraft you'll be flying. This is more of a reaction to insurance requirements, not a downplay on your flying skills. However, this is all pure speculation because they are all different.