Legacy Hornet and Harrier Pilots

[NJ Devil Dog]

Hello All,

Does anyone know what is happening to the Harrier and Hornet pilots once their platforms are retired? Do they automatically go over to F-35 B’ sand C’s respectively?

It appears that the Corps is cutting down on their F-35’s order meaning there will be less F-35’s (B’s and C’s combined) than Harriers and Hornets. Does this mean that the jet spots coming out of Primary are extremely limited due to the older platform guys getting first shot at transferring over?

I tried searching and asking around but no one I ask seems to have a clue.

Thanks for help.

 

[Swanee]

Many are transitioning to the newer airplane. Some are going elsewhere, some are retiring, many are getting out and going to the airlines. You can't fill a squadron with O-4s and O-5s, there will always be slots for new guys.

Same at is has been since the beginning of time when an airplane is retired.

 

[NJ Devil Dog]

Many are transitioning to the newer airplane. Some are going elsewhere, some are retiring, many are getting out and going to the airlines. You can't fill a squadron with O-4s and O-5s, there will always be slots for new guys.

Same at is has been since the beginning of time when an airplane is retired.

Thank you for the answer!

 

[nittany03]

You can't fill a squadron with O-4s and O-5s

Something something SELRES hardware units . . .

 

[HSMPBR]

Something something SELRES hardware units . . .

 

[taxi1]

Does anyone know what is happening to the Harrier and Hornet pilots once their platforms are retired? Do they automatically go over to F-35 B’ sand C’s respectively?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Hello All,

Does anyone know what is happening to the Harrier and Hornet pilots once their platforms are retired? Do they automatically go over to F-35 B’ sand C’s respectively?

It appears that the Corps is cutting down on their F-35’s order meaning there will be less F-35’s (B’s and C’s combined) than Harriers and Hornets. Does this mean that the jet spots coming out of Primary are extremely limited due to the older platform guys getting first shot at transferring over?

I tried searching and asking around but no one I ask seems to have a clue.

Thanks for help.

Believe it or not, they go straight to jail.

 

[hlg6016]

Believe it or not, they go straight to jail.

No 200 dollars and permanent assignment to SDO.

 

[Flash]

They go to a big, beautiful farm in the country where the weather is always CAVU and they can fly around free to their heart's content.

 

[robav8r]

I heard about this the other day. It's only for pilots who are flying legacy airframes. Elon has stated he's gonna take at least 42% of all applicants.

 

[taxi1]

USMC tank driver...

 

[ChuckMK23]

Legacy Hornet guys are getting ~10 hours/month. Now and for forseeable future. The young Capts entering that community are being dealt a crappy hand. Lots of cyclling of airplanes between Beaufort and Iwakuni.

 

[MIDNJAC]

Something something SELRES hardware units . . .

While this is all true, I wish we could have the culture of the ANG, where you can just be a squadron pilot O-5 without an overgrade waiver. Or fly to 30 years as an O-6 on that same gameplan.

*maybe they do get overgrade waivers, but it doesn't seem that there is the same cyclical pressure to retire/send folks out to pasture that we have in SELRES.

 

[Swanee]

While this is all true, I wish we could have the culture of the ANG, where you can just be a squadron pilot O-5 without an overgrade waiver. Or fly to 30 years as an O-6 on that same gameplan.

*maybe they do get overgrade waivers, but it doesn't seem that there is the same cyclical pressure to retire/send folks out to pasture that we have in SELRES.

They do have to get overgrade waivers, but they're like candy on Halloween. I've only seen one person not get promoted to O-5 as a DSG. AGR's might have to wait a bit longer for a control grade on top of their over grade to get promoted, but DSGs put on pretty much right away. If someone is on full time orders as an O-5 they generally will have a job- flight commander is generally where we put them. Part timers come and go as they please.

O-6s in my state are group and wing commanders, or state staff weenies, so they have a day job.

 

[RoarkJr.]

Legacy Hornet guys are getting ~10 hours/month. Now and for forseeable future. The young Capts entering that community are being dealt a crappy hand. Lots of cyclling of airplanes between Beaufort and Iwakuni.

interesting, the rumint we heard is hours are good for legacy hornets. according to the avplan selections start to drop off a lot after this year, from I think 22 to 12 roughly until sundown.