Everyone who I have ever talked to about checking into OCS said to do it about 10 on the Sunday. Why show up early?
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I'm not positive about the wording, but I think the NET and NLT times for checking in are on the saturday. If I were you, I'd check in the times your orders say to. If that is on saturday, do it. If it is saturday to sunday, then cool deal. Just....the whole following orders thing. Probably the first thing we need to learn as OCs. :icon_wink
I can read my orders. It leaves a window from Saturday to Sunday. Everyone says show up at 10 on Sunday while flynavyp3 says show up Saturday. I am curious why.
3 recruiters, 4 ensigns and my processor have all told me that you want to check in at 10am on Sunday. The orders show NET (no earlier than) and NLT (no later than) times. This means that you can show up anytime in between that window.
From what I understand, it's a good idea to get your orders stamped as early as possible so you can find and rectify any paperwork mistakes. You are then free to spend Sat Night at the BOQ and show up any time Sunday from 0700 to 1100, with 1000 being the most commonly reccomended time. Any recent grads have a thought on this?
Sorry I didn't post yesterday, 'cause it looks like this check in thing continues to be an issue. OKAY, the final scoop on checking in; CHECK IN WHEN YOUR ORDERS TELL YOU TO! Yes, your orders will probably give you a window of time for checking in (NET..., NLT...), but the bottom line is be sure you obey what you're told in writing. Ito doesn't matter that training doesn't begin until Sunday; if your orders tell you to check in earlier than Sunday morning (i.e. Saturday or even Friday) then you better frickin' well obey your written orders and check in when it tells you to. As I said before, if you check in early, they just stamp your orders and tell you to come back on Sunday, but at least the stamp will prove in writing that you complied with your orders. DON'T blow off the dates/times on your orders just because some post on Air Warriors told you to come in on Sunday. The last I checked, PCS orders were signed by a Rear Admiral, so even if your LT recruiter tells you to show up Sunday morning, be sure you are complying with what's in writing since that's the higher authority. There are very few ways to start off your naval career any WORSE than blowing off written orders from an Admiral.
Regarding red1323's question about Candidate Officer duties for the final class, that is still waiting to be determined. There was some talk about cutting it short & graduating the class early, but that's not going to happen. Best odds are that you will get farmed out to help in various places around the base, but once again that's a guess & not solid fact.
Regarding red1323's question about Candidate Officer duties for the final class, that is still waiting to be determined. There was some talk about cutting it short & graduating the class early, but that's not going to happen. Best odds are that you will get farmed out to help in various places around the base, but once again that's a guess & not solid fact.
Wow, you guys are really nuking this whole check-in thing, which is by far the easiest thing you'll do at OCS. After all, you just need to show up with the stuff you need to train with. However, Tom is right about the NET and NLT times...go by those. Some priors will have orders that tell them to check in earlier...again go by the times listed in the orders. It is as simple as getting a stamp on your orders and showing up again on Sunday morning. Good luck and stop nuking it....
One more word for incoming candidates for class 20-07 (beginning 01 JUL): just in case you haven't, start PT'ing NOW! Even if you don't have written orders yet, you still only have one month to get get ready physically, so if you play the waiting game (I'll start running when I know for sure) you'll break as soon as you get here. Biggest trends (for physical training):
1. Out of limits for bodyfat. Hey, if you're heavy, you know it. Don't live in denial, just get on a diet and lose it!
2. Failing the in-PFA (occasional failure for not enough push-ups or curl-ups, but usually it's the run). PRACTICE! You should be running a 1.5 mile course at least once a week to time yourself, and that's on top of your regular running routine of 2-3 miles, 3-4 times a week. Most people (even if they come from a hot climate already) drop 15-20 seconds off their run time just due to Pensacola's heat & humidity, coupled with the pace at which the entire PFA is administered (there is little rest time between events, so you very well may still be catching your breath from push-ups or curl-ups when it's time to run) . If you come from a cooler or drier climate you will probably lose even more time, so be sure you are not just scraping by.
3. Shin splints. The best way to avoid shin splints is to get your legs conditioned to running before you get here. Although there are a few things you can do to try to cope with it, the only way to actually heal shin splints is to rest, i.e. stop running for a while. If you can't run for several days then you are not keeping up with the class's scheduled training and you will be rolled out of the class. 'Nuff said.
4. Overtraining. Lately several students have found themselves at the emergency room or even admitted to the hospital for conditions resulting from overwork. It's not that the program has suddenly gotten harder, it's because some people didn't prepare physically until they got the word they were coming, and for a few people that only gave them a few days notice. When they arrived at OCS and were pushed at the normal pace of training, their bodies couldn't handle the sudden, high demand of exertion which resulted in their trip to the hospital.
As you can probably figure out, if this is the last class for OCS in Pensacola, there aren't too many options for you if you roll out of the class. There has been some discussion about how failures will be handled during the course of training, and while nothing has been finalized yet there has already been talk of how many students the Navy will be willing to move to RI and how many will simply be sent home. The best thing you can do right now is begin preparing yourself physically and mentally. Actually, the physical part is even more important to start early, because you can probably memorize everything you need to know in a week or two of intense concentration, but your body can only strengthen itself a little bit each day; it needs to spool up time in order to be properly prepared.
Good luck in your preparations. If you have any questions you can send me a message here (although I don't always check) or you can contact OCS and ask for your class officer.
1. Out of limits for bodyfat. Hey, if you're heavy, you know it. Don't live in denial, just get on a diet and lose it!
2. Failing the in-PFA (occasional failure for not enough push-ups or curl-ups, but usually it's the run). PRACTICE! You should be running a 1.5 mile course at least once a week to time yourself, and that's on top of your regular running routine of 2-3 miles, 3-4 times a week. Most people (even if they come from a hot climate already) drop 15-20 seconds off their run time just due to Pensacola's heat & humidity, coupled with the pace at which the entire PFA is administered (there is little rest time between events, so you very well may still be catching your breath from push-ups or curl-ups when it's time to run) . If you come from a cooler or drier climate you will probably lose even more time, so be sure you are not just scraping by.
3. Shin splints. The best way to avoid shin splints is to get your legs conditioned to running before you get here. Although there are a few things you can do to try to cope with it, the only way to actually heal shin splints is to rest, i.e. stop running for a while. If you can't run for several days then you are not keeping up with the class's scheduled training and you will be rolled out of the class. 'Nuff said.
4. Overtraining. Lately several students have found themselves at the emergency room or even admitted to the hospital for conditions resulting from overwork. It's not that the program has suddenly gotten harder, it's because some people didn't prepare physically until they got the word they were coming, and for a few people that only gave them a few days notice. When they arrived at OCS and were pushed at the normal pace of training, their bodies couldn't handle the sudden, high demand of exertion which resulted in their trip to the hospital.
As you can probably figure out, if this is the last class for OCS in Pensacola, there aren't too many options for you if you roll out of the class. There has been some discussion about how failures will be handled during the course of training, and while nothing has been finalized yet there has already been talk of how many students the Navy will be willing to move to RI and how many will simply be sent home. The best thing you can do right now is begin preparing yourself physically and mentally. Actually, the physical part is even more important to start early, because you can probably memorize everything you need to know in a week or two of intense concentration, but your body can only strengthen itself a little bit each day; it needs to spool up time in order to be properly prepared.
Good luck in your preparations. If you have any questions you can send me a message here (although I don't always check) or you can contact OCS and ask for your class officer.
RichardDelk
SNFO
At least our class number won't be hard to forget 
Just to clarify, the minimum passing score for the in-PRT is a Satisfactory Medium, correct? That is a 13:15 on the run, 42 pushups and 50 situps. This is per this website: http://www.nsgreatlakes.navy.mil/otcp/ocs/physical_training.htm
Obviously the goal should be to do much better than this, but the minimum passing score is what is most important in the end I think.
Thanks for the great info!
Just to clarify, the minimum passing score for the in-PRT is a Satisfactory Medium, correct? That is a 13:15 on the run, 42 pushups and 50 situps. This is per this website: http://www.nsgreatlakes.navy.mil/otcp/ocs/physical_training.htm
Obviously the goal should be to do much better than this, but the minimum passing score is what is most important in the end I think.
Thanks for the great info!
I'm only memorizing the max numbers and shooting for those. Expect to perform worse than you do in training due to more rigorous push up/curl up standards, the heat and humidity, and being in an unfamiliar environment. I have heard that some of the people grading your in-pft are sticklers for form and as flynavy mentioned, the consequences for rolling back from our class are more severe than in other classes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the opportunity to sit on my arse for a couple of months, and if you hit the mins you will pass. In my experience however, the psychological advantage you gain by telling yourself that the mins are at least a couple of notches above what you actually have to do is worth the extra sweat and tears.
The link you have is correct to the best of my knowledge (matches the numbers for the PFT I just had) Just out of curiousity, don't you have to score/maintain at least a good medium for BDCP??
Have fun with your last month of freedom, I'll see you soon enough Hopefully we'll be the class that no one (or at least no one from AW) rolls back!
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the opportunity to sit on my arse for a couple of months, and if you hit the mins you will pass. In my experience however, the psychological advantage you gain by telling yourself that the mins are at least a couple of notches above what you actually have to do is worth the extra sweat and tears.
The link you have is correct to the best of my knowledge (matches the numbers for the PFT I just had) Just out of curiousity, don't you have to score/maintain at least a good medium for BDCP??
Have fun with your last month of freedom, I'll see you soon enough
Hopefully we'll be the class that no one (or at least no one from AW) rolls back!