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Flash

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So why aren't other branches doing this? Also, I haven't heard from my brothers in the Army that they had to do an All-hands mandatory "Extremist Stand down". Is the Navy that bad??

Every service and component/agency in the DoD, to include civilian ones, have to do the mandatory extremist standown.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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Mind numbing....?
TBF, the instructor has been given a very difficult task. Much like the old SCOTUS line about porn. "I know it when I see it" it is increasingly difficult to measure "extremism because we are wrapping it too deeply in our personal political feelings. In the class the examples used were low hanging fruit (guys who swithced to radical Islam and threatened soldiers and one guy who joined the American Nazi Party and put a noose on another's bunk) and everyone saw that. Still, when one person conflates their political views against another's religious views (as an example) people tend to jump right to "extremism" by way of "you" don't agree with "me" so "you" are an extremist because "I" am the most reasonable person in the world.

Not an easy task for any instructor. I will note that our guy is a member of Space Force and used the term "guardian" which I thought was extreme. ?
 

jmcquate

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Ours is at the end of the month. As a contractor, I don't have to attend, but I want to see how we handle it.
 

ABMD

Bullets don't fly without Supply
TBF, the instructor has been given a very difficult task. Much like the old SCOTUS line about porn. "I know it when I see it" it is increasingly difficult to measure "extremism because we are wrapping it too deeply in our personal political feelings. In the class the examples used were low hanging fruit (guys who swithced to radical Islam and threatened soldiers and one guy who joined the American Nazi Party and put a noose on another's bunk) and everyone saw that. Still, when one person conflates their political views against another's religious views (as an example) people tend to jump right to "extremism" by way of "you" don't agree with "me" so "you" are an extremist because "I" am the most reasonable person in the world.

Not an easy task for any instructor. I will note that our guy is a member of Space Force and used the term "guardian" which I thought was extreme. ?
eh, just read off the slides and be careful about adding too much. As TRAINO I told CO to stick to the script to avoid going down any rabbit holes or getting off on a tangent.
 

Brett327

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So why aren't other branches doing this? Also, I haven't heard from my brothers in the Army that they had to do an All-hands mandatory "Extremist Stand down". Is the Navy that bad??
They are. It's an all DOD requirement issued by SD, and I've heard plenty of discussion about it from the other services on Twitter. From my 50K ft view, the Army and Marines seem to have the most challenges with command culture and integration of women. Granted, not exactly the theme of the extremist training, but it's tangential to a lot of CMEO issues. IMO, the Navy actually does a pretty good job on that stuff.
 
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