I have the scholarship, but they won't let me use it

[bch]

I am not going to tell you to lie or not to lie... I will say this. There are reasons why certain "conditions (I use that term very lightly)" are a hard and fast disqualifer. There is a reason they specifically ask about said things.

Now, just becuase you think that it is no longer an issue, does not mean it is gone. Go get medical proof that it is.

This is not directed at anyone in general. Will they go looking for things in your med past... prob not. If it resurfaces and you did not speak up about... are you pretty much fvcked? ABSOLUTLY!

 

[HOORAH]

see kids... THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T PUT THINGS LIKE THIS IN YOUR MEDICAL SCREENING FORMS

My bf told me that one. Remember they don't actually go to your medical records. He worked for recruiters (all though he's not one, thank God) and knows everything about it. They don't have time to check out everyone's med records. Plus, no one would get in if that were the rule. There isn't a time when someone didn't go to the doctor because they had a headache one too many days or couldn't sleep due to stress and the doc gave them something because they were exhausted. My boyfriend's CO is bipolar (and a pain in the a$$ with his freaking attitude changes at the drop of a hat) but hey he's made it to be a CO!

For you, you've already spoken up, all you can do is prove that it's not an issue. Or try the NROTC. I feel for anyone that doesn't have anyone to get advise about this stuff from before taking action, someone who really knows what they're talking about. My boyfriend has been a God sent for me joining the Corps.

 

[fc2spyguy]

My boyfriend's CO is bipolar (and a pain in the a$$ with his freaking attitude changes at the drop of a hat) but hey he's made it to be a CO!

So, who made that medical diagnosis?

 

[nittany03]

Former "ADD" and "ADHD" kids really have pointless problems trying to get in, and also need to heed this. Those two diagnoses are completely unwaiverable, even though they are still largely subjective (dependent on doctors' and parents' opinions) and along with asthma are among the most attriting medical factors of military applicants.

Bad gouge alert. They do give waivers for this.

 

[CommodoreMid]

Getting waivers for psychological conditions is a *****, but it's possible. I lost my appointment to USNA because of antidepressant usage in high school. Almost lost my NROTC scholarship too but at this point I was mad as hell and fought hard. I got off the medication, proved I was sane, proved there was no chance of the condition ever occuring again, and entered into NROTC off scholarship for a semester to prove I could be a good midshipman. They reinstated my scholarship benefits this semester, paid back my first semester tuition, and I'm going on CORTRAMID in 2 weeks.

 

[phrogdriver]

This comes under "Common sense was an uncommon virtue." Don't cover any legitimate illnesses, but don't put down "headaches" because you saw the school nurse when you were 12. If you did get recurring treatment for something, be it asthma, a heart murmur, or psychological, you should 'fess up. Some people are getting the short end of the stick due to our society overmedicating any teenager who'd rather look at girls than a textbook or who gets the blues (you're a teenager, duh!). However, I understand the military's reluctance to put anyone with a history of psych problems behind a multi-million dollar killing machine. If in doubt, put it down on the form.

Many are called, but few are chosen...

 

[Schnugg]

Moo

I was a fat twelve year-old kid

Really????...Dig in kids...it's good for you.

 

[d00002]

Asthma Waiver

I suggest that anyone that is interested in learning more about Asthma and possible waivers visit the follow site. http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/Nami/WaiverGuideTopics/respiratory.htm

The quick answer from above is:
WAIVER: A history of asthma is CD for military service and for aviation training, even if very mild. Waivers for aviation applicants can be recommended if: 1) Asymptomatic for a minimum of five years, 2) Primary physician or specialty consultant document an otherwise normal history and physical examination, 3) Normal baseline PFT's with post bronchodilator (<15% change in FEV1) and Methacholine/Provocative testing being negative.

There is a test (not cheap by the way) called a Methacholine challenge test. Contact your local Asthma and Allergy specialist (civilian). If you pass the test, it is the foundation for this waiver. The first step to receiving a waiver is the recommendation from the local Navy doctor. The final step is concurrence by the Department of the Navy.

Hope this helps. Good Luck

 

[etnuclearsailor]

People are sayin that recruiters don't go looking for medical records, which is true. However, what about security clearances? Officers need top secret, and if someone they interview says something about depression or asthma, what then? Do they go to the med records?

 

[beau]

God I hate Schools and Dumb parents......I mean ****, I bet every single one of us in this forum was rambunctious as a child and was depressed at some point durning adolescence.....does that mean we need meds or be diagnosed with some BS disorder??? HELL NO!! Kids are kids are kids....they have more energy then their parents or teachers......they do get depressed about stupid things adults cant comprehend. Sure there are cases out there of kids who might need this....but I would say a vast majority of cases are overeacting on parents and or schools because they themselves have never learned how to properly control a kid........what a Copout!!

This is a lesson to all you kids out there wanting to be Naval Aviators when you grow up......dont let your Parents or Schools for that matter drown your hopes and dreams becasue they think you need some "special attention". They start talking drugs or disorders shape up or doors could be shut in the future.

 

[zab1001]

People are sayin that recruiters don't go looking for medical records, which is true. However, what about security clearances? Officers need top secret, and if someone they interview says something about depression or asthma, what then? Do they go to the med records?

WTF does asthma have to do with a clearance interview?

 

[CommodoreMid]

Antidepressants in kids is not always unwarranted. I, along with other people I know, truly had a problem that needed attention. It angers me sooooooooo much when people say "just get over it" because in cases when there actually is a problem that is a terrible idea and will only hurt recovery. Yes teenagers get depressed occasionally, but parents and teachers need to be able to distinguish normal teenage angst from real problems.

And here's a good link http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/security.htm

It tells you everything you could possibly want to know about clearances, including a section about mental illness.

 

[HOORAH]

So, who made that medical diagnosis?

I have no idea. I'm quite annoyed that he is in the military if he is truely infact bi-polar. All I know is that according to the doc in the unit (who's desk is right next to my bf's desk) he has all of the signs of the disorder. Plus he acts like a few people that I know whom have been diagnosed with it.

This isn't the first time I've heard of this happening anyway. My friend was sent to Iraq with a girl who in his words "scared the he!! out of me. She was psycho." She too acted very bi-polar.

 

[etnuclearsailor]

WTF does asthma have to do with a clearance interview?

Undisclosed asthma might... it's up to the investigators I suppose.

 

[zab1001]

I can assure you, no security investigator (a) is going to ask, or (b) gives a sh!t about asthma.