Gun Laws in your state

[picklesuit]

I agree with Flash here. There is enough of a majority in America that loves their guns that it's not likely the Dems will screw with gun laws. If they do, at least you guys can take solace in the fact that within 2 years they will no longer hold a majority in Congress, and then said laws can be undone.

Funny, the majority in America is opposed to gay marriage, yet that is being crammed down our throats (no pun intended Spekkio) one state at a time...

We were also opposed to abortion as a majority when Roe V. Wade resulted in the legalization of abortion as a form of birth control...in fact I think we still are...

I think the beliefs of the Majority are not always on the minds of the Legislators of this country...

I for one don't believe for a fucking second that a President Obama (I just threw up in my mouth a little) or a DNC controlled Legislature is going to respect my right to self defense and the right to bear arms...they will argue that it is the governments job to protect us from ourselves (Kind of like OSHA for home-invasion robberies..."Just lay back and take it, it will all be over soon"...)

 

[red_ryder]

Well when they do come after your guns, IF they actually do, :icon_roll then you'll have to make a big enough stink that they don't. Dudes...relax.

 

[richierich]

I just hope that obama does not try and get even with us who "cling to our guns and religion"

 

[nebekerb]

Funny, the majority in America is opposed to gay marriage, yet that is being crammed down our throats (no pun intended Spekkio) one state at a time...

We were also opposed to abortion as a majority when Roe V. Wade resulted in the legalization of abortion as a form of birth control...in fact I think we still are...

I think the beliefs of the Majority are not always on the minds of the Legislators of this country...

I for one don't believe for a fucking second that a President Obama (I just threw up in my mouth a little) or a DNC controlled Legislature is going to respect my right to self defense and the right to bear arms...they will argue that it is the governments job to protect us from ourselves (Kind of like OSHA for home-invasion robberies..."Just lay back and take it, it will all be over soon"...)

Do you actually believe this?
Just so you know, when a "majority" thinks a certain way, it does not necessarily mean the "majority" is correct (cite mom's "if everyone else is jumping off of a bridge" story).

 

[Spekkio]

Funny, the majority in America is opposed to gay marriage, yet that is being crammed down our throats (no pun intended Spekkio) one state at a time...

We were also opposed to abortion as a majority when Roe V. Wade resulted in the legalization of abortion as a form of birth control...in fact I think we still are...

I think the beliefs of the Majority are not always on the minds of the Legislators of this country...

I for one don't believe for a fucking second that a President Obama (I just threw up in my mouth a little) or a DNC controlled Legislature is going to respect my right to self defense and the right to bear arms...they will argue that it is the governments job to protect us from ourselves (Kind of like OSHA for home-invasion robberies..."Just lay back and take it, it will all be over soon"...)

Re: gay marriage, that has only been handled on a state level thus far, where the rules are a little different than the federal level. However, yes, our federal government has gone against the grain from time to time. Women's suffrage and civil rights for blacks come to mind. However, I don't view this as a bad thing as the government is bestowing rights upon people who, for all intents and purposes, should have had them in the first place. That trend should also point out that the current histeria by hard charging Republicans over an imminent socialist/communist "dictatorship" under Obama is completely irrational.

Private gun ownership is not suppressing a minority or taking away anyone's right, so there's no PC pressure for the government to do something about it. Nor can you be labeled a racist/sexist/homophobe for promoting gun ownership. There was a bit of an anti-gun movement in the 90s, but as Flash pointed out, it has gone away once the Democrats got stomped out of Congress.

 

[Slammer2]

This discussion has motivated me to go the the gun show tomorrow and enjoy a new one.

 

[HueyCobra8151]

Re: gay marriage, that has only been handled on a state level thus far, where the rules are a little different than the federal level. However, yes, our federal government has gone against the grain from time to time. Women's suffrage and civil rights for blacks come to mind. However, I don't view this as a bad thing as the government is bestowing rights upon people who, for all intents and purposes, should have had them in the first place. That trend should also point out that the current histeria by hard charging Republicans over an imminent socialist/communist "dictatorship" under Obama is completely irrational.

You do know that Republicans were the ones that were in favor of civil rights for blacks right? Democrats filibustered the civil rights act...

 

[CWJones411]

I need to stock up. Since AR-15s will be the first to go maybe I should invest in one.

 

[lmnop]

You do know that the majority of elected representatives were the ones that were in favor of civil rights for blacks right? Southern Democrats filibustered the civil rights act...

Fixed. Geographic lines were more in play than party lines on that one. Only 9 House Democrats and 1 Democratic Senator (Byrd) from states that had not been members of the CSA were opposed. Of course, there were only 10 Republicans in the House and 1 in the Senate from those former CSA states, and 100% of them voted against the bill. 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats co-sponsored the bill that finally passed. Spin it however you'd like, but I think we all know that the parties of today bear little resemblance to the good old days when Strom Thurmond was a Democrat.

How the hell did this thread get here from the second amendment?

 

[scoober78]

If it does happen, you can count on me holding onto it until they take it out of my cold dead hands.

I think that the point, ultimately, is that if those who feel like you extricate their heads from their asses....it may not come to that. Just a thought. Lean forward, or fall backward.

Secondly...don't rely on ANY politician to protect your right. They will do, nearly by definition, what is politically expedient. It's yours to defend. Get busy. Write letters, join the NRA, have a serious conversation with someone who feels differently than you do. The more we rely on politicans and the government to guarantee our liberty, the more it slips through our fingers. Grains of sand....

 

[Spekkio]

How the hell did this thread get here from the second amendment?

Because some people think Obama will try to enact tougher gun control, and apparently under Obama this country is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions! Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

 

[scoober78]

You do know that the Republicans were the liberal party back then, right?

Uhhhhh what??? Why don't you tell the class when that happened?

See...the general consensus is that the Democratic Party has been positioned well to the left of the Republicans since the election of 1912 when the Republican Party split and the Bull Moose Party ran Roosevelt again...that is unless you are referring to classical liberalism....

Consider this my polite way of saying "What the hell are you talking about?"

 

[picklesuit]

Do you actually believe this?
Just so you know, when a "majority" thinks a certain way, it does not necessarily mean the "majority" is correct (cite mom's "if everyone else is jumping off of a bridge" story).

Yes I believe this...that is why I wrote it...and I think the Majority is correct in the instances that I cited...that is why I cited them...do you have anything useful to contribute to this conversation?

 

[Spekkio]

Uhhhhh what??? Why don't you tell the class when that happened?

See...the general consensus is that the Democratic Party has been positioned well to the left of the Republicans since the election of 1912 when the Republican Party split and the Bull Moose Party ran Roosevelt again...that is unless you are referring to classical liberalism....

Consider this my polite way of saying "What the hell are you talking about?"

I confused the 1960s with the 1860s. Oops.

 

[HueyCobra8151]

Do you actually believe this?
Just so you know, when a "majority" thinks a certain way, it does not necessarily mean the "majority" is correct (cite mom's "if everyone else is jumping off of a bridge" story).

It's a bit of a stretch to go from an ELECTED government following the will of the majority of the people within a Democracy to your mom telling you not to do the dumb shiat your friends are doing...

It doesn't matter if the majority is "wrong" or "right"