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Brett327 said:
Something that was brought up on another platform is that we would immediately lose access to every base we have in Europe, or at least be in a very precarious position there. Of course, none of this has been thought through by the WH. Rota, Moron, Aviano - gone, Naples - gone, Sig - gone, Souda Bay - gone, every base in Germany and the UK - gone, BMD bases in Poland & Romania - gone, Keflavik - gone, EUCOM HQ - gone. All that for some fucking mineral rights? Complete absurdity.
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I think in general the MAGA crowd sees those bases as the US "protecting" Europe out of the kindness of our hearts and values and at the cost of our checkbook without any understanding that they are strategically critical for our own interests military and otherwise, and often well beyond Europe.
 
Brett327 said:
Something that was brought up on another platform is that we would immediately lose access to every base we have in Europe, or at least be in a very precarious position there. Of course, none of this has been thought through by the WH. Rota, Moron, Aviano - gone, Naples - gone, Sig - gone, Souda Bay - gone, every base in Germany and the UK - gone, BMD bases in Poland & Romania - gone, Keflavik - gone, EUCOM HQ - gone. All that for some fucking mineral rights? Complete absurdity.
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It wouldn't be a unified response--much messier, and therefore better for Putin.

Germany MIGHT close US bases, but highly unlikely that Poland would. And so European NATO is further fractured, which would be debilitating to the European support to Ukraine.

It's not hard to see who wins big with these shenanigans.
 
DanMa1156 said:
I think in general the MAGA crowd sees those bases as the US "protecting" Europe out of the kindness of our hearts and values and at the cost of our checkbook without any understanding that they are strategically critical for our own interests military and otherwise, and often well beyond Europe.
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A quarter of the active US Army is in a nearly decade long rotational cycle of to protect the eastern flank, and it is eroding readiness and retention in ways that white papers are written about.

Pretending that NATO partner nations like Germany haven’t actively taken advantage of the US bearing the cost of the collective protection is just ignoring the actual truth which pre-Trump 16 that was a bipartisan view. They’ve got a years long road to go on spending and efforts to try and rectify that situation.
 
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