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Et Tu, Petraeus?

HAL Pilot

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This might make a good round of Fuck, Marry, Kill....
Paula Broadwell
Jill Kelly
Holly Petraeus
 

zipmartin

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Kinda smelling like the 'Dogface' version of Tailhook '91?:eek:
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Several of us at NAS Dallas wore that patch after our own NBE-based VR-59 told us they had no room for us as they left on their way to the east coast to pick up Tailhook-bound Naval Aviators and Naval Flight Officers. Sometimes, the world is just not fair. But then again, that just may have prolonged my soon-to-be BRAC-shortened career another year. ;)
 
I suppose it's good you qualified harmless in quotation marks. There really is no such thing as harmless adultery unless you're in some type of open marriage. A myopic focus on the matter of material/substantive damage to national security is not really warranted. Is it too much to ask our leaders to do the right thing? Even when it's difficult? That's what we're supposed to do.
There were a few Marine DIs at OCS that were disciplined recently. They were in an open marriage, and were charged with adultery. So I guess that's not OK.
 

MasterBates

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There were a few Marine DIs at OCS that were disciplined recently. They were in an open marriage, and were charged with adultery. So I guess that's not OK.

Every once in a while, you get a CO who flips out over stuff that is socially acceptable, but not to him. Granted open marriage is not accepted by a lot of mainstream USA, but neither are gays/lesbians, and that's OK now as far as DOD is concerned.

Case in point. Me and a couple other JOs were once giving formal, written counseling on Article 134 and some other shit, because we were living with our GFs, off base, in houses we all owned. Brought my now wife to a Hail n Bail at the XOs house, his wife asked where she lived, she said with me, and hilarity did not ensue from there. We had JOs who had been with their GFs long enough they were common law, and still, we all got shat upon. I was told we needed to get married or she needed to move out. CO (who was going through a divorce at the time) found out about that and that was probably the only time I heard an XO get reprimanded by the CO.
 

Brett327

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Every once in a while, you get a CO who flips out over stuff that is socially acceptable, but not to him. Granted open marriage is not accepted by a lot of mainstream USA, but neither are gays/lesbians, and that's OK now as far as DOD is concerned.

Case in point. Me and a couple other JOs were once giving formal, written counseling on Article 134 and some other shit, because we were living with our GFs, off base, in houses we all owned. Brought my now wife to a Hail n Bail at the XOs house, his wife asked where she lived, she said with me, and hilarity did not ensue from there. We had JOs who had been with their GFs long enough they were common law, and still, we all got shat upon. I was told we needed to get married or she needed to move out. CO (who was going through a divorce at the time) found out about that and that was probably the only time I heard an XO get reprimanded by the CO.
This story is outrageous, unbelievable and stretches the bounds of credulity. Then I realize who it's happening to and I'm rapidly transported back to reality. :D
 

xj220

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Or have a shirtless FBI agent under investigation for sending photos to the 'social liaison' who originally complained about the emails from Broadwell. The person she originally complained to was the agent who sent her the aforementioned photos and who also later 'blew the whistle' on the investigation to a member of Congress at the end of October fearing it was being buried by the administration.

I am certainly impressed with the number of men who have gotten entangled with this one woman. Who is next, the commanding general of the Salvation Army?

It's the government's own version of "There's Something About Mary." The only question is, who's Ben Stiller and who's Woogie? Lets throw Brett Favre in for good measure. Hell, he's had his own scandal so he'll fit right in.
 

Flash

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Sweet baby Jesus. I just want to point out that SECDEF was quoted as saying that Gen Allen is entitled to due process in this mater. I hope that same deference is afforded to all the other commanders who are kicked out of their jobs for accusations, innuendo or police charges not adjudicated by the courts.

Well it appears that two Combatant Commanders just went through extensive investigations into their travel; ADM Stavridis was cleared though apparently it took him out of the running for CJCS, former General Ward (now Major General and soon to retire as Lieutenant General) on the other hand was demoted and now has to pay back the government for his travel shenanigans.

You can read all about General Ward's case here in the IG report, it is a long read but good read and has some interesting details between all the redactions. Among the interesting tidbits are that he spent 70% of his TDY time in CONUS and only 20% in Africa, his AOR. The impression I got from the report was that he had a casual disregard for/completely ignored travel rules and bent/broke them regularly to benefit himself and his wife, most notable was his abuse of official government aircraft and his hotel expenses (per diem rates, what are those?). Worst of all he didn't even have a government CC! :eek:

 

xj220

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Worst of all he didn't even have a government CC! :eek:

Well, if he had completed his Gov CC NKO, he wouldn't have made those mistakes and would still be in his job!

Edit: Damnit it Recovering LSO! You beat me.
 

Recovering LSO

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Well, if he had completed his Gov CC NKO, he wouldn't have made those mistakes and would still be in his job!

Edit: Damnit it Recovering LSO! You beat me.

Though he could have had the best of both worlds. A young first tour Line Division officer may have once made the following suggestion to his guys before a three week det to Nellis: if you're going to spend your money on something stupid (or potentially illegal), take the cash advances and leave no receipts...
 
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