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Energy Discussion

Griz882 said:
Equally interesting to see the same information focused down to the U.S. where there is a clear shift away from coal. As noted here, the future appears to be in energy “storage” alongside production.

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The shift away from coal corresponds to the development of fracking for oil, with the waste byproduct of gas coming up with the oil, ie, the gas was basically free.
 
sevenhelmet said:
Interestingly, nuclear has fallen more as a percentage, despite being much less carbon-producing. Cost and psychology are probably dominant factors there. Ecology be damned- we probably won't adopt nukes on a bigger scale until coal and gas get expensive enough that the economics are too hard to ignore.
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Politics! Every time nuclear power is mentioned Chernobyl, Fukushima and/or Three Mile Island are almost obligatorily mentioned. No matter that they were all older designs with much more risk than more recent designs, or that the US Navy has operated nuclear reactors safely for 70 years, or their ecological advantages, or....pick a reason. POLITICS!

And to be frank given the history of corporations and governments cutting costs coupled with human behavior I really wouldn't past someone, somewhere, somehow fucking something up with even one of the newer designs.
 
Flash said:
Politics! Every time nuclear power is mentioned Chernobyl, Fukushima and/or Three Mile Island are almost obligatorily mentioned. No matter that they were all older designs with much more risk than more recent designs, or that the US Navy has operated nuclear reactors safely for 70 years, or their ecological advantages, or....pick a reason. POLITICS!

And to be frank given the history of corporations and governments cutting costs coupled with human behavior I really wouldn't past someone, somewhere, somehow fucking something up with even one of the newer designs.
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Human psychology again. I rest my case.
 
Randy Daytona said:
The shift away from coal corresponds to the development of fracking for oil, with the waste byproduct of gas coming up with the oil, ie, the gas was basically free.
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Interesting side note on this, during the depression my grandfather (a country lawyer) settled legal cases in barter often getting various plots of land across Texas. These were eventually leased for their mineral rights and paid him a tidy (but not millionaire) sum in oil revenue. When he died he basically kept it all together as an LLC and had the revenue divided equally between his heirs. Over time the oil ran out and the leases were renewed at a smaller amount for fracking. Just this month we signed a new lease where the wells will be pumped full of saltwater and that will then be extracted pulling up lithium!
 
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