Does it matter what training squadron you get at primary

[Pcola04/30]

Beau has it right...summer flyin in Corpus is good....only the occasional cell to worry about. I think the Las Cruces det's were in the Winter, not sure though, as they stopped before I classed up. It has been almost two years since they sent a Det out to Las Cruces.

 

[Fly Navy]

Beau has it right...summer flyin in Corpus is good....only the occasional cell to worry about. I think the Las Cruces det's were in the Winter, not sure though, as they stopped before I classed up. It has been almost two years since they sent a Det out to Las Cruces.

You're right actually, I think it was winter, and it's been less than 2 years. I have friends that went on them.

That being said, whoever it was that convinced the Navy to put pilot training in Florida and Mississippi was either a genious, a moron, or both.

 

[E5B]

I was on the Las Cruces det 2 winters ago. What a great time! Las Cruces is a neat little town, fabulous food. Great flying, no weather problems...had to wait an hour or two once or twice for the ice to melt off the wings. Basically just did PAs, night fams and forms out there. Came back to Corpus on super bowl sunday via C-12 and started RI's. %90 of my RI flights were actual IMC(Feb & Mar)....good times.

 

[zippy]

DOR in CPTs...are you friggin kidding me?? A class of 19 dudes reduced to 10??? that is unheard of! I dont remember anyone who dropped before the plane....it just didnt happen. They must really be harping on the SNA's in CPTs for that to happen....i just dont believe it! CPTs suck, I cant fathom someone dropping like that. I mean...its only a week...then your done...to the plane!

Earliest DOR was Fam 1, the class started off with 17 and lost 4 in a month or so.

 

[zippy]

That being said, whoever it was that convinced the Navy to put pilot training in Florida and Mississippi was either a genious, a moron, or both.

Probably a politician....

 

[A4sForever]

.....whoever it was that convinced the Navy to put pilot training in Florida and Mississippi was either a genious, a moron, or both.

Florida --- that's easy ... it was there .... longtime Navy traditional air station .... the Birthplace; the Cradle.

Miss'sippi --- a political "genius" --- a.k.a. Senator John C. Stennis (D-Miss) --- "Mr. Integrity" --- military supporter and Miss'sippi benefactor extraordinaire. Served 7 terms -- 42 years --- under 8 Presidents -- and was the Chairman of the Armed Services Committee, Chairman of the Appropriations Committee, and President Pro Tempore of the Senate. NAS Meridian (among other installations) was "launched" because of him ....

 

[zippy]

Hey Zippy,

You in my class? Identify yourself with first name so I figure out who you are! I'm on under my wife's handle.

No, but I know a lot of people who are/were.

 

[beau]

I'm sorry -- I need to clarify! I guess Beau took it the wrong way. NO-ONE DORed "during" CPTs; it has all been AFTER CPTs finished (see quote above). One quit after FAM-1, that was the earliest guy. The rest have quit from FAMs to PAs.

And yep, my SO's class was quite large and now it's really down to 10 people. Hard to believe but I've heard of other classes down 50% after a few DORs.

Also, you are correct, CPTs should take 1 week and then to the plane. But, some dudes have had a warm up for CPTs (here in Corpus) because they have been on stand-by so long (per my husband). Take your guess as to what the hold up is?!

That makes more sense....but still does not make sense in the fact that so many people are DORing. When I went through I only heard about maybe 5 people total DORing (not medical) in 5-6 months....you guys seem to be talking half of the class dropping. This is/was not the norm! What gives?


A4's, seems that politics overrides common sense again. Of course I would rather be close to the beach then in the middle of the desert (read good weather) anyday. Unless that place happend to be Vegas....then how much training would actually get done???

 

[SemperGumbi]

Beau,

Yes. There is an epidemic from the best I can tell.
Both pilots and FOs.

I can't say why for all of them, but I know a few 04 Navy pilots who just burned themselves out stressing about grades during API to avoid the ax.

Also, a few FOs decided that being in the back was no fun after seeing how nice it is to be the pilot.

I guess they think supply will be more fun (?).

 

[Pags]

I find it hard to believe that half of a class DOR'd...Could API really have been that strenuous? It was only 4 weeks...

 

[Pags]

Well, I understand that it was covered, I'm just still flabbergasted. I know that this is what these guys want to do, it still just amazes me that that many people DOR'ed.

 

[zippy]

Before this turns into a pissing contest over API... Yes, API standards were higher for the last part of the '04 year group- but doing better in API doesn't mean being a better aviator.

That being said, I know some of them were thinking of DORing before and during API, but decided to stick it out in the hopes that things got better. Appearently they didn't think they did.

 

[Pags]

Not trying to make this into a pissing contest, I guess I just find it hard to believe that you don't like flying. But apparently some people don't like beer either...

 

[Prashant Patel]

I was one of those '04 guys who had to get that 94 average in API, along with some other dudes in my class(05' guys NOT subject to 94 avg). I, however, don't think that it has an effect on people DOR'ing. Sure it was a little more stressful, but the tests themselves weren't that hard. Most people can get a 90 with just a few hours of studying. It's getting the 5 toss-ups that made the difference. My honest opinion is that your husband's class must have been a fluke when it came to 1/2 of them dropping. I just did my first CPT today after 3 1/2 weeks of being "not scheduled."

BTW VT-27 guys who are starting up (past 3 weeks) are not moving any faster through the training pipeline right now. My roommate is in the VT-27 class that started a week after mine and he's been stuck on standby for 2 1/2 weeks now. Looks like a back-and-forth trend between the two primary squadrons here in Corpus.

 

[bulldozer3]

both squadrons use the same sim's and same planes... they are essentially one big squadron... therefore everything effects both of them.

by the way USNA-SNA wife, VT c/o 2003 here
but stuck around till 04. Theres alot of VT guys down here now, A couple of us just finished up in VT-28 the other week.