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DCO Panel Interview Gouge

Rudy.30

Well-Known Member
Sure- of course you can tell better.

But I am not going to make someone drive 2-5+ hours for it. Especially during a pandemic. If they are local and didn't want to do an in person I would probably ask why. Everyone got jobs and families and other responsibilities and I def wouldnt want someone taking off of work and missing stuff for an interview when it could just as easily be done via zoom.

Maybe I am in the minority.

In my current job I interviewed via phone, then via zoom, then started with the company and have worked from home ever since. Never even met my boss or team.
Maybe COVID will change this and in person will be just as equal as video.🤷‍♂️


I would make the case that if you’re not willing to drive 2-5hrs one time for an interview to get that extra score vs a phone interview then you might not drive 2-5 hrs. for drill weekend once a month. I drive 2+ hours for drill and drove ~4hrs one way to interview with an O-6 when I applied the second time because I wanted to do all I could to give myself the best shot at getting selected.

To each their own and what you are saying is not wrong at all, just giving my opinion, which is not worth much. HA
 

nodropinufaka

Well-Known Member
If we were willing to reimburse them for their travel time then Id absolutely agree with making them travel.

Most private companies reimburse for travel to/from interviews.

Im just coming from the perspective I know how tight money can be for some people. And asking them to take off work for such a highly competitive program doesnt sit right with me.
 

fy18dco

New Member
For the record, I did my OIC and panel interviews virtually last summer and was selected at the Sep board. Didn't seem to make a difference...panel members didn't even have their cameras on.
 

ABMD

Bullets don't fly without Supply
If we were willing to reimburse them for their travel time then Id absolutely agree with making them travel.

Most private companies reimburse for travel to/from interviews.

Im just coming from the perspective I know how tight money can be for some people. And asking them to take off work for such a highly competitive program doesnt sit right with me.
how is that any different then taking 5 weeks off for ODS?
 

nodropinufaka

Well-Known Member
how is that any different then taking 5 weeks off for ODS?
You’re selected by then and getting paid.

asking an applicant to take off work. Drive long distance and possibly spend for a hotel when they won’t be reimbursed for any of it is unnecessary
 

Rudy.30

Well-Known Member
You’re selected by then and getting paid.

asking an applicant to take off work. Drive long distance and possibly spend for a hotel when they won’t be reimbursed for any of it is unnecessary
nodropinfuka - Are you talking about the DCO interview process? Maybe it is different for your community but I know for myself and ABMD who are SUPPO's, we drive/video chat/call to interview with the closest O-5 or O-6 SELRES SUPPO for our interview portion. 2 Interviews are required.. I feel like we are talking about two different processes. No one makes them do an in person interview it is the applicants choice which is the whole point behind it looks better if you choose to do an in person interview.

Maybe your community makes you go somewhere for a panel interview?
 

nodropinufaka

Well-Known Member
nodropinfuka - Are you talking about the DCO interview process? Maybe it is different for your community but I know for myself and ABMD who are SUPPO's, we drive/video chat/call to interview with the closest O-5 or O-6 SELRES SUPPO for our interview portion. 2 Interviews are required.. I feel like we are talking about two different processes. No one makes them do an in person interview it is the applicants choice which is the whole point behind it looks better if you choose to do an in person interview.

Maybe your community makes you go somewhere for a panel interview?
I mean the beginning of the thread it’s talking about driving for hours just to present the optic that they care as applicants.

I don’t see the point is all I’m saying. Why tell someone they got to drive and spend that much time when it can just as easily be done on video.
 

FinkUFreaky

Well-Known Member
pilot
Eh, I agree with both sides in this... It's not necessary to drive to the place to be interviewed. Cool. If I really wanted the job, I'd drive to the interview. It's clearly valued, from what many have posted here. If that's the case, and I wanted that job (whether part-time, considered part-time, or some mix of the two), I'd wear my best suit or rent one for the interview. If I were the one deciding the hiring (never specifically been in that sort of position) I'd pick a balance between proven talents, drive, and willingness to accept whatever the "suck factor" at that job was. I imagine that is basically what is being done here. It's not like they are outright refusing people not willing to make the drive; there are just others with fairly equivalent records that are willing... I'd take that guy (edit: or gal, or trans, or zie, etc) in a heartbeat over the "part-timer" that isn't willing to.
 
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Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Super Moderator
Contributor
If they could fill spots with NAVETS they probably would, but they can't, NAVET recruiting has often been "difficult".
Most NAVETs that didn't want to go the distance want nothing to do with the Reserves when they get out. At least in my experience.
The cluster fuck that is transitoning from active duty to reserves is a big deterrrent, I knew several folks that tried to join the reserves but eventually gave up when it became too much of a pain. How much of a pain? One went through 3 different reserve recruiters and multiple paperwork drills for a year before giving up. His was the worst case I knew but I personally knew many others that had a difficult time at joining or attempting to join the reserves. I know it has gotten better but I it isn't anywhere near as easy as it should be like it seems with the USAF-USAFR/ANG.

Also, I'm pretty sure NAVET's is the term only for enlisted.
 

nodropinufaka

Well-Known Member
The reserve affiliation process was a nightmare for me too. I had to stay on top the transition guy at PERS to make sure he had all my paperwork and stuff.

Then when I showed up my entire record was messed up and I had to mail in stuff. Took filing an ICE complaint to get it fixed.
 

snake020

Contributor
The cluster fuck that is transitoning from active duty to reserves is a big deterrrent, I knew several folks that tried to join the reserves but eventually gave up when it became too much of a pain. How much of a pain? One went through 3 different reserve recruiters and multiple paperwork drills for a year before giving up.
After I had been given a quota from my community to transfer from IRR to SELRES, I had to go through two NRDs (my local one simply ignored my emails) one CAPT to apply pressure, and an IG complaint to MEPS because they screwed around for nine months and after two visits without even making a decision on my medical screening. I likely wouldn't have had any success without the quota in advance, and it would have been easy to walk away had I not been locked in on making the transition happen.

Also, I'm pretty sure NAVET's is the term only for enlisted.
It's used for officer vets as well. I got a final select letter indicating as such.
 

porterma

Active Member
Maybe COVID will change this and in person will be just as equal as video.🤷‍♂️


I would make the case that if you’re not willing to drive 2-5hrs one time for an interview to get that extra score vs a phone interview then you might not drive 2-5 hrs. for drill weekend once a month. I drive 2+ hours for drill and drove ~4hrs one way to interview with an O-6 when I applied the second time because I wanted to do all I could to give myself the best shot at getting selected.

To each their own and what you are saying is not wrong at all, just giving my opinion, which is not worth much. HA
I actually am setting up my interviews right now. I wish I could interview in person, there is something special about putting a face to the name and to the application that virtual interviews cannot. However, due to COVID-19, I am required to set up either a video interview or a phone interview.

I do not think phone vs in person interview will have as much as an impact moving forward due to the overall change in attitude surrounding technology as a primary means of communication during the pandemic.
 

bubblehead

Registered Member
Contributor
Does anyone have an idea on the past IWC DCO selection rate?
FY20 Board (March 2020): 79 recommended for commission out of 174 packages or about 45%.

1 x 1805
5 x 1815
8 x 1825
65 x 1835

10 of the 174 packages were not considered due to items I would deem a gross lack of attention to detail on the part of both the applicant and recruiter. I wonder how these packages even made it to the board.
 
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