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Swanee

Swanee

Cereal Killer
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wink said:
Sure. And most all this folks are required right now even in their speciality. And if they happen to be shuffling by when my loved one is gasping for breath, blue in the face and burning up I'd rather have anyone of them over no one at all just because they didn't have the right PQS signed off. In flight on an airliner we have all sorts of medical professionals volunteer when needed and they save lives.
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My brother-in-law is the Chief of Radiology at at one of the most prestigious hospitals in the world. If you have a problem that no one else can touch, his hospital is one of "those" that you want more than anything to go to.

You know what he said he'd have to do in an ICU ward full of COVID patients? He said, "Find the first fucking nurse to tell me what is going on and what do to because this is a completely different world and I don't have a fucking clue. I'm more likely to kill an ICU patient than help them."

Do you still want that Radiologist, or Psychiatrist, or Medical Examiner, treating your loved one? Medicine is a lot harder than you think. It's not a PQS, it's a whole field of study. We all studied the same shit in highschool- but fuck it if any highschool grad can really tell me how the English language works if that's what I need to keep me alive.
 
picklesuit

picklesuit

Dirty Hinge
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Swanee said:
My brother-in-law is the Chief of Radiology at at one of the most prestigious hospitals in the world. If you have a problem that no one else can touch, his hospital is one of "those" that you want more than anything to go to.

You know what he said he'd have to do in an ICU ward full of COVID patients? He said, "Find the first fucking nurse to tell me what is going on and what do to because this is a completely different world and I don't have a fucking clue. I'm more likely to kill an ICU patient than help them."

Do you still want that Radiologist, or Psychiatrist, or Medical Examiner, treating your loved one? Medicine is a lot harder than you think. It's not a PQS, it's a whole field of study. We all studied the same shit in highschool- but fuck it if any highschool grad can really tell me how the English language works if that's what I need to keep me alive.
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It’s not just the COVID cases though. All of the health care professionals, trained in t appropriate fields, are being sucked into that specific fight, leaving the less emergent issues under/untreated. If I’m a diabetic looking to get my dialysis knocked out, and the phlebotomist is busy dealing with sinking IV’s with COVID patients, I’ll take a veterinary technician before I go without care.

I find it extremely hard to believe there aren’t places where people can help, even if it’s rebuilding surgery packs to autoclave, to free up the people fighting the good fight.
 
picklesuit

picklesuit

Dirty Hinge
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Swanee said:
Eh. Not so much.

This is like telling a jet pilot to fly a helo in combat on their first (or 3rd) time in the helicopter.

Surgeons cut, radiologists read scans (some do interventional procedures), pathologists spend their time looking in a microscope, medical examiners deal with dead people, psychiatrists talk and observe moods.

There is a HUGE reason why you have to redo your residency if you switch specialties.
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I can stick a helo pilot in the right seat and have them answer the radios, monitor the autopilot, and even maintain altitude/course/speed. We all flew fixed wing aircraft at some point.

Same as basic medical care, the Mk 1 Mod 0 doctor can still take a TPR, sink an IV, and screen patients.
I’ll still take the landing, and the specialists will still knock out the hard shit, but much of the day to day can be handed downhill.
 
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TimeBomb

Noise, vibration and harshness
picklesuit said:
I can stick a helo pilot in the right seat and have them answer the radios, monitor the autopilot, and even maintain altitude/course/speed. We all flew fixed wing aircraft at some point.
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This is the basic plan for the small, rural community hospital where I work. The nurse practitioners and surgeons will take care of the routine medical stuff that still comes in. The internists and medical subspecialists will care for the COVID-19 patients. The hospital is very limited with regard to isolation capacity, which I suspect will be the first failure point.

Medical training has a lot of similarities to Naval aviation training. In a pinch, all of us have some degree of familiarity with the basics, and could be utilized in some capacity. The administrators have to figure out how they're going to deal with qualifications and privileges. Right now, I'm not allowed to treat someone under 18. An orthopedic surgeon may not have the clinical privileges to manage diabetes. Military medical training took this into account, and had a more general first year than civilian programs. It is likely that a civilian trained orthopedic surgeon has never independently managed a diabetic, just like I've never set a broken arm or taken out an appendix.

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