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He conveniently doesn't count ~10,000 deaths that the Spanish government counts because he 'presumes' that they are folks dying in old age home. "The extra dead in the total count were because of “suspected” Covid deaths that happen outside of hospitals. I presume mainly old age homes"

That's a pretty big presumption, shocking as it may be coming from some random dude/dudette on Twitter named @gummibear737.
 

Treetop Flyer

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He conveniently doesn't count ~10,000 deaths that the Spanish government counts because he 'presumes' that they are folks dying in old age home. "The extra dead in the total count were because of “suspected” Covid deaths that happen outside of hospitals. I presume mainly old age homes"

That's a pretty big presumption, shocking as it may be coming from some random dude/dudette on Twitter named @gummibear737.
Good catch, but even with those added the point remains that most of the population isn’t facing much risk
 

DanMa1156

Is it baseball season yet?
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Have mostly avoided the fray here on this threat, but where is this from? I can't read the bottom. I'm immediately skeptical not seeing Seattle there, although, that may be why this is misleading - if you combine the deaths of Seattle and a couple of other large metros in an attempt to make the map display what I think you're trying to get across - then yes, it looks like NYC is the only major problem.
 

Treetop Flyer

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Have mostly avoided the fray here on this threat, but where is this from? I can't read the bottom. I'm immediately skeptical not seeing Seattle there, although, that may be why this is misleading - if you combine the deaths of Seattle and a couple of other large metros in an attempt to make the map display what I think you're trying to get across - then yes, it looks like NYC is the only major problem.
Even now, the state of New York is reporting 28,648 deaths compared to 93,561 nation wide. That’s roughly a third, largely focused in NYC. New Jersey (10,591), Massachusetts (5,938), Pennsylvania (4,751), Michigan (5,017), Illinois (4,379) total 30,676 and those states deaths are overwhelmingly focused around NYC, Philadelphia, Boston, Detroit, and Chicago. Washington state has reported 1,029 total deaths.
 

RedFive

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Have mostly avoided the fray here on this threat, but where is this from? I can't read the bottom. I'm immediately skeptical not seeing Seattle there, although, that may be why this is misleading - if you combine the deaths of Seattle and a couple of other large metros in an attempt to make the map display what I think you're trying to get across - then yes, it looks like NYC is the only major problem.
It was originally made by a Reddit user, that's where I first saw it before @HAL Pilot posted it here. The OP posted this in that thread:

rob0407 said:
Post is back. It was temporarily taken down by the moderators.

FIXED MAP - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X8IDVo97JjjSc9a4Sff59bBfxL-mEu1p/view?usp=sharing

Thank you for the feedback on Color blind. Please use the link above. Manhattan is fixed, and the color scheme is improved. Apologies.

Red is actually 30.4 + MANHATTAN SHOULD BE RED

Yellow is actually 35.1

Green is actually 34.4

This map does not include suspected deaths or anything like that. Data was copied on May7th at around 11pm from google typing in "Covid Deaths" which mostly sources wikipedia. But it's all taken from the chart that comes up when you do the search. Given the uncertainty in the number of deaths, I went ahead and published even though I'm off by 1-3%. Also, there wasn't county data in Massachusettes, so the percentages were inferred from the case count. Pretty safe to do when compared to other states.

USA

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zIv-j_SH6nLG4yk-xVPiNlPc3HP6QtxK_bVVP0d8Th0/edit?usp=sharing

NEW YORK

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zqn4CuUWgd2aFwU097FdxIxmfCV_zVyUsMsGgz6ZCgk/edit?usp=sharing

New Jersey

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TlBJ3CH8NelsDizgqgnZr7PcYY8hZjw_ftpEoxYlm-I/edit?usp=sharing

Pennsylvania

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dUaj8URbR5U2K2XIVtRXitlOu0nQGqSQtTvUjDVC3po/edit?usp=sharing

Connecticut

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KIihbgTBUUjBMusUKcROymwO-Oyee4zRg8qm_2Iaj7U/edit?usp=sharing

Massachusettes

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1crGlbnUicPdQ7KudJo2dCoUjIS4TcdQUcOX1K2mcHF8/edit#gid=0

Illinois

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sKmGfVQ1ORHIRbi7X6kuehcioUe4jyW5PzI0CCGMdTU/edit?usp=sharing



Michigan

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t8rzjx_DjlZWQ3GaFAATcJg72BLECU9DEqjgiRNPbjQ/edit?usp=sharing
 

exNavyOffRec

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Have mostly avoided the fray here on this threat, but where is this from? I can't read the bottom. I'm immediately skeptical not seeing Seattle there, although, that may be why this is misleading - if you combine the deaths of Seattle and a couple of other large metros in an attempt to make the map display what I think you're trying to get across - then yes, it looks like NYC is the only major problem.
Seattle wouldn't be visible as for the most part Seattle itself hasn't really had any deaths, most were outside of Seattle, just the County that covers Seattle has only had like 500 deaths, most of those were in cities a 20 minute drive from Seattle, while just NYC had over 15000 deaths.

In Washington over 50% of the deaths were those 80 years or older while accounting for only 9% of cases.
 

Treetop Flyer

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Out of the state of New York’s 28,648 deaths as of today, 24,613 are from the boroughs of NYC plus the three immediate surrounding counties Westchester, Suffolk, and Nassau
 

Treetop Flyer

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A lot of information is pointing to as much as half of all COVID deaths coming from nursing homes. To put that in context, here’s an article about life expectancy in nursing homes.


Cliff notes

In a study of elderly Americans who moved to a nursing home for their final months or years of life, 65 percent died there within one year, according to an investigation by researchers at the San Francisco VA Medical Center and the University of California, San Francisco

One quarter of all deaths in the United States occur in nursing homes, and that figure is expected to rise to 40 percent by the year 2020

The average age of participants when they moved to a nursing home was about 83.

The average length of stay before death was 13.7 months

The median [length of stay before death] was five months

Fifty-three percent of nursing home residents in the study died within six months

Men died after a median stay of three months, while women died after a median stay of eight months

So up to half of all deaths from the virus are among a demographic that had a median life expectancy of five months?
 
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DanMa1156

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Thanks for all the heads up. Limited internet, bandwidth, and news sources out here right now. Would've figured Seattle had more deaths initially.
 
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