CJCS responds to Rep. Gaetz

[nodropinufaka]

It was weird to not see Joe Biden's name on @Brett327's list.

I’ll be the first to admit that he should have been

 

[nodropinufaka]

The DNC mothership is just as dumb. Every four years they try to outdo each other. The kingmakers in charge of each organization seem to pick their guy/gal and base their campaign on their pick being not the other party's guy/gal. And the party faithful of both sides lap this stuff up.

Well them forcing Hilary in 2016 is very likely a major cause on how Trump was able to win the upset.

People really really really disliked her and who could blame them?

 

[robav8r]

It seems to be sticking rather well, but if it makes people happy that it is labelled otherwise then I am sure it will be of great comfort to the ~500 losers, morons, idiots, halfwits, fools and dumbasses that have been charged with breaking the law by entering the Capitol building that day.

FBI Director Chris Wray admitted, last week, under oath, that January 6th was NOT an insurrection. I wonder why that is . . . . .?

 

[DanMa1156]

For all the arguing over who was racist and who wasn't at the January 6th Insurrection/Rebellion/Attempted Overthrow/"Tour of the Capital"/whatever you jabronis are calling it, we can at least agree they were idiot, knuckledragging morons who typed in "Georgia Flag" without taking the time to look up "Georgia State Flag." It was one of the first things I noticed when I was watching the riot unfold on my TV that several of these flags were flying. I immediately assessed the intelligence of the group using this. (Remember, the State of Georgia's election results at the time were not so hotly contested, with the Republican, Pro-Trump governor even saying, "there's nothing to see here.")

 

[grodonfreeman]

That protester may be ignorant of the meaning of the GA flag, but the opposite is true of Red Flag waving Leftists.
Don't worry, I won't post a million photos of Commie flags waving at Leftist protests & marches.

 

[Hotdogs]

For all the arguing over who was racist and who wasn't at the January 6th Insurrection/Rebellion/Attempted Overthrow/"Tour of the Capital"/whatever you jabronis are calling it, we can at least agree they were idiot, knuckledragging morons who typed in "Georgia Flag" without taking the time to look up "Georgia State Flag." It was one of the first things I noticed when I was watching the riot unfold on my TV that several of these flags were flying. I immediately assessed the intelligence of the group using this. (Remember, the State of Georgia's election results at the time were not so hotly contested, with the Republican, Pro-Trump governor even saying, "there's nothing to see here.")

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This is fucking gold….

 

[grodonfreeman]

This is fucking gold….

More like FeS2

 

[DanMa1156]

That protester may be ignorant of the meaning of the GA flag, but the opposite is true of Red Flag waving Leftists.
Don't worry, I won't post a million photos of Commie flags waving at Leftist protests & marches.

Edited note because I reread what you wrote and see what you mean now, my point below I think still stands, but yeah, some people, stupidly, want communism or socialism in America. I don't see them waving the flag of a country that's irrelevant to their cause at a rally intended to stop the peaceful transfer of power.


I think you're comparing apples and oranges. Some people in the U.S. do want socialism, although, certainly those who want true communism would still be fringe. Nonetheless, I don't think they are mistaking their flags in the same way that the Trump protestors at the capital did, waving a flag of a country that had nothing to do with the protest, and that country just happens to share a name with a U.S. State whose election results they were protesting. To me: there's a big difference between someone who (in my opinion wrongly) supports communism or socialism and someone who bought the first flag off Amazon that matched what they thought they wanted to protest. Both are dumb, but for totally different reasons.

More like FeS2

Simultaneously nerdy, irrelevant, and snowflakey? I didn't know all those things were possible.

 

[Pags]

FBI Director Chris Wray admitted, last week, under oath, that January 6th was NOT an insurrection. I wonder why that is . . . . .?

He also testified, under oath, that it was domestic terrorism: "That attack, that siege was criminal behavior, plain and simple and this behavior that we, the FBI view as domestic terrorism."

 

[MGoBrew11]

Sidebar, good reads similar to what you're saying:

Black Rednecks and White Liberals by Thomas Sowell (a little dry and lacking in actual statistics, but a decent social commentary) - also I am realizing earlier I stated Malcom Gladwell and meant to say Thomas Sowell earlier in this thread when saying the household income is a poor measure of really... anything.

and of course

Hillbilly Elegy by JD Vance (which I found actually just a really fun book to read).

Dang I had Hillbilly Elegy in mind as well. Another good one to read regarding all this is Ralph Ellison’s novel Invisible Man.

 

[HAL Pilot]

3 generations? The civil rights act was passed in 1964.

 

[robav8r]

He also testified, under oath, that it was domestic terrorism: "That attack, that siege was criminal behavior, plain and simple and this behavior that we, the FBI view as domestic terrorism."

Oh, I know. But the media's mischaracterization that it was an "Insurrection" is patently false.

 

[jtmedli]

No there weren't, not even close.



By your rough guesstimate that would mean at least 5-10% of the folks that made it into the Capitol were openly racist assholes, and that just counts the ones that were open about it.

So yeah, I'm willing to make a sweeping generalization about the losers who broke the law by entering the Capitol and prevent Congress from performing its Constitutional duties.



So like the former President they were a bunch of sore losers, got it!





Ah, here we go! The 'Big Lie' and all its stupidity. Let's see here, all the votes from the last Presidential election were counted by the folks whose job it is to do so. In doing so they went through investigated claims of all sorts of malfeasance and they found extremely few, and I do mean extremely few, instances of any sort of issues at all with the election. I was actually a little bit pleasantly surprised at how well the election overall was run.

So what is happening now is not an 'investigation' by trained professionals like law enforcement or state elections officials but a loose group of morons who don't have a clue what they are doing or even what they are looking for, but they sure are going to find it and do something about it! I'm sure that the bamboo they find in the ballots will be the smoking gun that is needed to overturn the election, I just know it!



Congress didn't have a duty to do any of those things that day, they were there to certify the election and that was it. They had no mandate or duty to investigate or otherwise 'recognize the issues' that some losers had with the election. But most importantly, they had no reason to address those issues because they are not grounded in reality. It's like whining that Congress won't investigate the moon landings because a significant number of people think they were faked.

No matter what Congress had done that day, unless it was to overturn the election, they would not have satisfied the morons and idiots that stormed the Capitol. No matter how hard you try, you can't fix stupid.

The main reason, and I do mean the NUMBER ONE REASON that there was significant controversy over the election is because the former President can't accept the reality that he lost the last election fair and square and has made numerous claims that continue to today that there was significant fraud and malfeasance. Yet without a single shred of credible evidence, the Kraken notwithstanding, a significant portion of the population continue to believe it. Because stupid.

There are so many strawman arguments in this post that it's literally impossible to reply to. Congratulations, you managed to pervert and manipulate just about everything I said.

Congress is LEADERSHIP (a term you must have heard at least once by now) and when 10s of millions of people think there was fraud in the election they have a duty to ensure to those people that it wasn't by providing proof. I NEVER said they needed to do it THAT DAY. They had 2 months to allow recounts and audits but instead they dismissed people's concerns and went to court to sue in order to prevent any kind of transparency from happening. It doesn't matter in the tiniest bit whether it was true or not at the time. All that matters is that voters in this country have faith in the outcome of the election and get the necessary reassurance such that democracy, and our republic, can function as intended. When people lose that faith in the system, things like this are going to happen. Spend a few weeks in just about any history class and that outcome would've been obvious to you. So like I said, I was pretty unsurprised when it happened after watching how much Democrats and RINOs tried desperately to dismiss and Sue their way out of transparency.

 

[nodropinufaka]

There are so many strawman arguments in this post that it's literally impossible to reply to. Congratulations, you managed to pervert and manipulate just about everything I said.

Congress is LEADERSHIP (a term you must have heard at least once by now) and when 10s of millions of people think there was fraud in the election they have a duty to ensure to those people that it wasn't by providing proof. I NEVER said they needed to do it THAT DAY. They had 2 months to allow recounts and audits but instead they dismissed people's concerns and went to court to sue in order to prevent any kind of transparency from happening. It doesn't matter in the tiniest bit whether it was true or not at the time. All that matters is that voters in this country have faith in the outcome of the election and get the necessary reassurance such that democracy, and our republic, can function as intended. When people lose that faith in the system, things like this are going to happen. Spend a few weeks in just about any history class and that outcome would've been obvious to you. So like I said, I was pretty unsurprised when it happened after watching how much Democrats and RINOs tried desperately to dismiss and Sue their way out of transparency.

Not disputing that fact but was it fair for congress, senators and the sitting president to say that it was not a fair election without much proof?

 

[RandomGoat1248]

There are so many strawman arguments in this post that it's literally impossible to reply to. Congratulations, you managed to pervert and manipulate just about everything I said.

Congress is LEADERSHIP (a term you must have heard at least once by now) and when 10s of millions of people think there was fraud in the election they have a duty to ensure to those people that it wasn't by providing proof. I NEVER said they needed to do it THAT DAY. They had 2 months to allow recounts and audits but instead they dismissed people's concerns and went to court to sue in order to prevent any kind of transparency from happening. It doesn't matter in the tiniest bit whether it was true or not at the time. All that matters is that voters in this country have faith in the outcome of the election and get the necessary reassurance such that democracy, and our republic, can function as intended. When people lose that faith in the system, things like this are going to happen. Spend a few weeks in just about any history class and that outcome would've been obvious to you. So like I said, I was pretty unsurprised when it happened after watching how much Democrats and RINOs tried desperately to dismiss and Sue their way out of transparency.

Since I already pulled myself into this thread, here goes nothing.

The transparency you demand already happened. The recounts that were required occurred and every state's election were certified per the proper legal process.

Just because you don't like the result doesn't mean the process failed or that there was a lack of transparency. Nobody owes sorelosers anything as there was/is absolutely no evidence of irregularities in the results.