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Bringing a non-ID holder on base

papacarter

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What are the rules for bringing a non-military / non-ID holder on base? What about for a non-US citizen?
 

ea6bflyr

Working Class Bum
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What are the rules for bringing a non-military / non-ID holder on base? What about for a non-US citizen?
Depends…lots of variables. Sometimes there’s no ID check, sometimes, it’s 100% ID check. Sometimes a state issued driver’s license works. Again, depends on threatcon, which base you are visiting. You can get onto NAS Pensacola with a driver’s license (Public Air Museum), but probably not NAS Oceana. YMMV.
 

FinkUFreaky

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Depends…lots of variables. Sometimes there’s no ID check, sometimes, it’s 100% ID check. Sometimes a state issued driver’s license works. Again, depends on threatcon, which base you are visiting. You can get onto NAS Pensacola with a driver’s license (Public Air Museum), but probably not NAS Oceana. YMMV.
Used to be true. Not since the Saudi shooting though... Unless something's changed real recently, need someone with a CAC to escort onbase at NASP now. Great response, right? Foreign national shoots up Americans, let's ban Americans from access to the museum.
 

0621 Hertz

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Used to be true. Not since the Saudi shooting though... Unless something's changed real recently, need someone with a CAC to escort onbase at NASP now. Great response, right? Foreign national shoots up Americans, let's ban Americans from access to the museum.

While were at it lets have API students have clear backpacks only, that'll stop em'
 

jmcquate

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Used to be true. Not since the Saudi shooting though... Unless something's changed real recently, need someone with a CAC to escort onbase at NASP now. Great response, right? Foreign national shoots up Americans, let's ban Americans from access to the museum.
Washington Navy Yard did the Same thing.
 

Griz882

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Washington Navy Yard did the Same thing.
To be fair, judging on Washington Navy Yard's recent history having a CAC card holder is no guarentee of not getting a shotgun blast in the face. ?
 

jmcquate

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To be fair, judging on Washington Navy Yard's recent history having a CAC card holder is no guarentee of not getting a shotgun blast in the face. ?
The policy was put into place because of that incident. Used to be that you could get through the main gate with a DL if you were going to the Museum.
 

Pags

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pilot
Mayhaps the limit for CAC holders only isn't to limit the pool of potential attackers because as griz pointed out plenty of CAC holders have been responsible for attacks but instead to limit the pool of possible victims and not have a bunch of museum visitors as possible targets.
 

wink

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Mayhaps the limit for CAC holders only isn't to limit the pool of potential attackers because as griz pointed out plenty of CAC holders have been responsible for attacks but instead to limit the pool of possible victims and not have a bunch of museum visitors as possible targets.
Seriously? Did I miss a smiley?
 

Pags

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Seriously? Did I miss a smiley?
Nope. I'm not a security guy and don't know how they make decisions but I was just wondering out loud if that was a reason to limit base access for these bases that used to have museums that were open to the public.
 

wink

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Nope. I'm not a security guy and don't know how they make decisions but I was just wondering out loud if that was a reason to limit base access for these bases that used to have museums that were open to the public.
Well, there is no accounting for military nonsense, but that would certainly be an unusual approach to security management in this instance.

Question, I see that it looks like all gov employees have a CAC card looking thing. Is that an all access pass now? Does the facilities maintenance dude at the Bureau of Land Management building in Missoula just walk onto a military post? Do they scan all CAC holders IDs that might further restrict access? My retire card is scanned most times I go on base, but not universally.
 
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