Nope, next it will be ascots or worse.
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Another nail in the coffin of Old-School Naval Avaition..
- Thread starter MasterBates
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Nope, next it will be ascots or worse.
I think this is exactly what it is referring to. The previous regs allowed "graduate aircrew" patches to be worn on the left shoulder in lieu of a flag.
The fact that regulations exist for "flying coveralls" that are not a uniform (and yes, those regs started circa 95) that mandated names and ranks started us down this slippery slope. If you're going to make it a uniform make it a uniform and be done with it.
So does this mean NOTHING other than the "graduate level aircrew training patch" on the right shoulder?
One more thing for non-aircrew CMCs to piss and moan about?
MasterBates
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Yeah. I'm sure the goat locker here, (who live to correct me on proper flight suit and jacket wear) is waiting for this to be in effect.
I think I'll have to live with it for 2-3 weeks at most.
I think I'll have to live with it for 2-3 weeks at most.
I don't know if "hate" is the right word. Envy, possibly? It's the easiest/laziest uniform to wear. You don't have to press it, dry clean it or starch it. You can basically just throw it on in five seconds and be ready to go, out the door. They're more comfortable than the NWU/BDU/ACU/Whatever . . . what's not to hate, if you don't get to wear it?
I don't know if "hate" is the right word. Envy, possibly? It's the easiest/laziest uniform to wear. You don't have to press it, dry clean it or starch it. You can basically just throw it on in five seconds and be ready to go, out the door. They're more comfortable than the NWU/BDU/ACU/Whatever . . . what's not to hate, if you don't get to wear it?
No. it's straight up hate.
I'm about to be wearing Khakis whilst sitting in a cubicle soon, so I'll enjoy whatever patches (and/or T shirts) I'm allowed for now.
MasterBates
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Yeah. I've had 3 CPOs come up and tell me about it today. Borderline gloating at best.
(I'm the local king of "not just the standard patches" here, but what I wear is legal under current rules)
(I'm the local king of "not just the standard patches" here, but what I wear is legal under current rules)
We have a black shoe CMC now. We had a sub guy before. They don't and shouldn't get involved in the weeds / mission of the squadron. Straight up heads, beds, attitudes and advising the CO on enlisted matters. Basically keeping the goat locker and troopers in line. Not to say there hasn't been problems. You will see AWs become CMC/CSCs on afloat units too.
Both VQ(T) squadrons have non-aircrew CMCs.
One step closer to being the 3rd Air Reconnaissance Squadron vice FAIRECONRON THREE... (That probably only makes sense to folks who have had some dealing with AF aviation... eff..)
One step closer to being the 3rd Air Reconnaissance Squadron vice FAIRECONRON THREE... (That probably only makes sense to folks who have had some dealing with AF aviation... eff..)
Probably more like the 633rd Air Reconnaissance Squadron of the 8th Air Reconnaissance Wing of the 9th Air Force.
Honestly, this navadmin is good news to me. First, we already wear black shirts for our squadron, but I definitely would be pissed if we didn't and had to switch. The different colored shirts, like patches, are part of squadron identification and espirit de corps. Also, previous uniform regs stated that zippers had to be closed on the flight suit and I'd get so much crap about putting my cover in the leg pocket and leaving it unzipped. Now I can do what I already do and not get hassled. Finally, I can walk and talk on the cell phone. The only doom and gloom I see is the t-shirt issue though.