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Another nail in the coffin of Old-School Naval Avaition..
- Thread starter MasterBates
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(3) THE GRADUATE LEVEL AIRCREW TRAINING PATCH SHALL BE WORN ON THE RIGHT SHOULDER ONLY.
Does this mean no more crew patches on the right shoulder? Or does it mean if wearing a training patch that it must be on the right shoulder only?
Does this mean no more crew patches on the right shoulder? Or does it mean if wearing a training patch that it must be on the right shoulder only?
MasterBates
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I just got my FITREP debrief. You are Psychic.
Currently, flight suits ARE "officially" authorized off base. There's just a bunch of caveats. Which leads to...
It is an Orange and White thing. There's some flexibility built into the current instruction which allows the <insert important person> (Commodore, usually) to allow other stops. While I was there as an IP, the TW-5 Commodore (not known for his flexibility) allowed it, so you could make brief stops to pick up take-out or the like.
My theory? .......
This is what I'm guessing. This may be the first step to get the CNO (SWO) onboard. Let's institute a uniform uniform and then we may be able to get some more flexibility. The same message talks about how how wearing of flight suits will be authorized at CNA events, as approved by the CNO. So hopefully there's a movement afoot.
Must have been blackshoes 'cuz this Chief would have been in the bag right along with you.
I was lucky to never have been stationed where the command was so anal about bags. Who cares where the pisscutter is stuffed just so long as it's not on yer head on the flightline...:icon_rage
My first thought was that I hope this is part of a plan to let us wear bags off base. Let's hope.... I'm curious about the patch thing- the way the message is worded it sounds like the right shoulder is the only place you can wear the qual patch, not that its the only one you can wear. If not, well I guess the crew patch is going on the nomex and I'll wear that all the time.
...Oh wait, I just checked in to the boat, so no flight suits for me for the next 2 years anyway :-(
...Oh wait, I just checked in to the boat, so no flight suits for me for the next 2 years anyway :-(
I'm thinking the same Commodore who ripped me a new asshole at the NFCU ATM in Milton that I stopped to use, while wearing my green flight jacket. It was about 40 degree's outside and I assume I was supposed to take it off while I got cash out of the ATM. I decided to use common sense and wear it seeing it was a bit cold outside. I didn't see the Commodore coming as he pulled his car over to get out to yell at me....I think he really got upset as I didn't take it off....he didn't say I had to take it off, just reprimanded me for wearing it. He watched me walk to me car and before I got in, he yelled, "you're embarrassing me!!!". I was just cold :icon_tong
What I fear, is that Naval Aviation as a whole will make up a bunch of rules because a SWO CNO might like them and might let us wear flightsuits off base officially. Instead, the CNO changes nothing and we're left with the dead seagull of uniform regs we offered as a sacrifice hanging around our necks until the death of manned flight.
Meanwhile, life has been pretty damn good doing whatever the hell we want, within reason, and getting away with it. The last thing I want is for my SWOtivated CMC, who has less time in aviation than all of my unqualified aircrew, to be able to tell me how I should wear my flightsuit. And really, they need to spell out a rule on where I'm supposed to keep my piss cutter? It's going to go in my right thigh pocket, folded in half, just like it has been since I was an ensign.
Meanwhile, life has been pretty damn good doing whatever the hell we want, within reason, and getting away with it. The last thing I want is for my SWOtivated CMC, who has less time in aviation than all of my unqualified aircrew, to be able to tell me how I should wear my flightsuit. And really, they need to spell out a rule on where I'm supposed to keep my piss cutter? It's going to go in my right thigh pocket, folded in half, just like it has been since I was an ensign.
Back in the olden days, the gate guards would look as you were driving out to make sure you weren't in a flight suit or flight jacket, and stop you if you were.
I seem to remember a lot of guys wearing Top Gun patches on their left in lieu of the flag and a squadron-specific aircraft patch on the right, especially the VF types with their triangle F-14 patches. Am I right? That would be the only reason I could think of that rule.
So's the CNO...just kidding!!
I give up...what is "the graduate level aircrew training patch"? Whatever it is, why does it merit speclal call-out for "location, location, location"? Is there already some other NAVADMIN or other instruction that details squadron patch placement, nametag stuff, flags, yadda yadda yadda? I assume there must me...
And this is the same Commodore that wore his leather flight jacket with his blues (not authorized) while talking to the press about a mishap.
Bunk, before you got there (I think), a buddy of mine went into the BBQ place in Pace and was spied. After much brewhaha, it came out, via the CO, that the Commodore had approved takeout stops for "recruiting purposes." That's the only reason how I knew he had set a policy. And one of the few policies I actually agreed with.
And you'll notice how fast the short break came back once he left. Another amusing policy change. But that's a whole other sea story.