I saw the day HUD for the -60 at NHA. Not sure how realistic it is, but I liked the idea at least. We're not exactly Cobras/Apaches.
What "need" is the day HUD advertised to address? The night HUD has it's uses (more valuable to some than others) but it's not like we're training weapons on targets with your cyborg attachments.
Night HUD is huge. Anything that's an improvement over the current abomination is welcome. However to the weapons on target comment, might there be some super hi-tech way to include the M-197 pipper in this? Just a thought. It's not like we have had helmet mounted HUD/sighting systems in helos since the 80's...What "need" is the day HUD advertised to address? The night HUD has it's uses (more valuable to some than others) but it's not like we're training weapons on targets with your cyborg attachments.
Big for M-197 and rockets ... don't want to be in some of those profiles, walking ordnance onto a target, and breaking outside scan to look inside. We have a guy assisting with the testing and he came back a true believer in both day and night HUD for ASUW in general.Night HUD is huge. Anything that's an improvement over the current abomination is welcome. However to the weapons on target comment, might there be some super hi-tech way to include the M-197 pipper in this? Just a thought. It's not like we have had helmet mounted HUD/sighting systems in helos since the 80's...
Night HUD is huge. Anything that's an improvement over the current abomination is welcome.
However to the weapons on target comment, might there be some super hi-tech way to include the M-197 pipper in this? Just a thought. It's not like we have had helmet mounted HUD/sighting systems in helos since the 80's...
Big for M-197 and rockets ... don't want to be in some of those profiles, walking ordnance onto a target, and breaking outside scan to look inside. We have a guy assisting with the testing and he came back a true believer in both day and night HUD for ASUW in general.
My first thoughts when I saw day HUD at NHA was Day CAS/ASuW -- if you think about how you will want to fly in that environment, particularly over water, you'll want to minimize your looks inside as the flying pilot.
I was asking because a day HUD doesn't really seem necessary if it isn't coupled with another weapon system. I hadn't heard of (and why I was asking) the other half of the system as being "purchased" yet. It was an honest question, not trying to be a smart ass about it.
I was asking because a day HUD doesn't really seem necessary if it isn't coupled with another weapon system. I hadn't heard of (and why I was asking) the other half of the system as being "purchased" yet. It was an honest question, not trying to be a smart ass about it.
Eh... Like I said, some guys dig it. Other guys with a ton of green ink in the -60 didn't find it necessary. Perhaps helpful with all but some minimal symbology turned off, but nowhere near a NO GO criteria. This was actually a major topic of discussion when we were trying to get our HUDs online and installed.
I know you guys have to brandish the patch every so often, but you do realize how silly these comments sound right now.
I was asking because a day HUD doesn't really seem necessary if it isn't coupled with another weapon system. I hadn't heard of (and why I was asking) the other half of the system as being "purchased" yet. It was an honest question, not trying to be a smart ass about it.
I can split the thread if we need to.
M197 in final testing right now. Deploys with two HSC (CVW) squadrons this summer/fall. Unguided rockets also part of the program, though slightly further behind the gun. All in a "rapid response to urgent needs." We are essentially robbing/adapting tactics from the HMLA community, in particular the UH side, to get the program off the ground.How often does your aircraft strafe? I'm aware of your door gunners as well as some A/G missiles - but forward firing strafe runs? Wasn't aware of that capability.
M197 in final testing right now. Deploys with two HSC (CVW) squadrons this summer/fall.
Unguided rockets also part of the program, though slightly further behind the gun. All in a "rapid response to urgent needs." We are essentially robbing/adapting tactics from the HMLA community, in particular the UH side, to get the program off the ground.
Funny, seems to me HAL back in the day was pretty good at doing that, too bad those capabilities got shelved back when the Huey went away in the Navy.
That is the classic problem -- relearning lessons already learned, though HAL wasn't quite as constrained as we are by NavAir approval/acquisitions. At least we were smart enough to talk to te current Huey experts for TTP inputs!No kidding? Big Navy is actually going to pony up the dough to fund the ammo NCEA to shoot this thing?
Funny, seems to me HAL back in the day was pretty good at doing that, too bad those capabilities got shelved back when the Huey went away in the Navy.
M197 in final testing right now. Deploys with two HSC (CVW) squadrons this summer/fall. Unguided rockets also part of the program, though slightly further behind the gun. All in a "rapid response to urgent needs." We are essentially robbing/adapting tactics from the HMLA community, in particular the UH side, to get the program off the ground.