Really, no thanks.....I don't want to have the wife thinking I am batting for Barney Frank's team........
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Aerospace physiologist/AMSOs
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Really, no thanks.....I don't want to have the wife thinking I am batting for Barney Frank's team........
That extra training heyjoe speaks of is the Aviation Safety Officer course....used to be at the Naval Post Graduate School in Monterery. Now, sadly, it is held in Pensacola.
I would not expect to see that school until shortly before your second tour as a Phys.
WRT to what Brett said....sad indeed. You would make a much better name for yourself the more you interact with squadron personnel. It is the right thing to do. Also, they are the ones signing your FITREP, assuming you take the AMSO route.
Frankly, I don't see what purpose they would serve by interfacing with squadron folks and I've never even heard of one flying - just my experience.
Brett
Must have served on the Reagan.....The gal second from the bottom......whoa........
Pulling Gs, and other aeromedical stuff. Kinda tough to talk about it unless you have done it. They like to get inside your head.
MasterBates
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When I was in Mayport, we did not have one on base.. You had to schlepp over to JAX if you needed anything.
For someone whos flight gear is all custom except for Helmet and Flight Suits, that is a HUGE pain in the arse..
For someone whos flight gear is all custom except for Helmet and Flight Suits, that is a HUGE pain in the arse..
Good responses, thanks all. I won't comment on certain issues, as I'll be working with personnel in both the Navy and the Air Force, but you guys are a riot.
That is to bad about the P-cola Safety course, I was looking forward to spending some time in Monterey.
Anwyay, I was interviewed by 8 physiologists and visited P-cola and Miramar in the process, so I got plenty of questions in, but not enough. From what I learned they are supposed to fly 4 hour per month to keep their wings, but I am not sure how much time they really do get. I think it is all up to how much they interact with people, their schedule and their attitudes. Some have tons of hours in the back seats of F-18s, some have carrier landings and others find it hard to squeeze in the flight time, but they are restricted to dual controlled aircraft regardless. I've got some buddies flying F-18's with dual trainers in their squadrons, so the minute I get winged, you know where I will be going. Anyway, the physios also go through API and then through the flight indoc class with the flight surgeons. Anyone know how many flight hours you actually get these days in that abbreviated flight indoc course? They told me its in both a T-34 and Bell helo?
Well I am looking forward to it...all I know is that I have to pick an OIS date by the end of this year, so it's not to far off.
I did hear that the Marines like having AMSO's in their squadrons, but the Navy has not really accepted them yet. Any Marine pilots vouch for that?
J
That is to bad about the P-cola Safety course, I was looking forward to spending some time in Monterey.
Anwyay, I was interviewed by 8 physiologists and visited P-cola and Miramar in the process, so I got plenty of questions in, but not enough. From what I learned they are supposed to fly 4 hour per month to keep their wings, but I am not sure how much time they really do get. I think it is all up to how much they interact with people, their schedule and their attitudes. Some have tons of hours in the back seats of F-18s, some have carrier landings and others find it hard to squeeze in the flight time, but they are restricted to dual controlled aircraft regardless. I've got some buddies flying F-18's with dual trainers in their squadrons, so the minute I get winged, you know where I will be going. Anyway, the physios also go through API and then through the flight indoc class with the flight surgeons. Anyone know how many flight hours you actually get these days in that abbreviated flight indoc course? They told me its in both a T-34 and Bell helo?
Well I am looking forward to it...all I know is that I have to pick an OIS date by the end of this year, so it's not to far off.
I did hear that the Marines like having AMSO's in their squadrons, but the Navy has not really accepted them yet. Any Marine pilots vouch for that?
J
Gotcha - I was looking at it the other way around (I.E. what magical knowledges do these wanna-be physicians have to impart to me
)Brett
Your friendly neighborhood AMSO
They can and do fly. Had a meeting today at AIRLANT that was attended by the Force AMSO and he was commenting that it was a little more difficult to fly in current position, but that he had flown routinely when stationed with Marines. Under the Aeromedical Officer Dual Designator (AMDD) program, they could even be flying as rated aircrew with you.
If you get new flight gear, you may see them in Ready Room briefing it. If you need a good AOM topic, then they are available to brief latest Flight Gear or Physiology trends and status. When there is a mishap, they are a real source of expertise to have on Mishap Board. If you have complaints about your flight gear, they are your best conduit to get the system to listen (through FAILSAFE program). Shame on your AMSO for not getting around or your Wing/squadron for not using him "as designed".
They can and do fly. Had a meeting today at AIRLANT that was attended by the Force AMSO and he was commenting that it was a little more difficult to fly in current position, but that he had flown routinely when stationed with Marines. Under the Aeromedical Officer Dual Designator (AMDD) program, they could even be flying as rated aircrew with you.
If you get new flight gear, you may see them in Ready Room briefing it. If you need a good AOM topic, then they are available to brief latest Flight Gear or Physiology trends and status. When there is a mishap, they are a real source of expertise to have on Mishap Board. If you have complaints about your flight gear, they are your best conduit to get the system to listen (through FAILSAFE program). Shame on your AMSO for not getting around or your Wing/squadron for not using him "as designed".
Just try having a custom helmet....now that is a pain in the arse, and I've only just finished primary...yaay!
You can probably tell from the bios heyjoe provided, but aerospace physiologist do get in to some cool stuff as they get more senior. Most of the duties and interaction you have heard of here relates to junior guys. I know a Navy O-5 aerospace physiologist that spent his last four years doing high level human factors work on simulator technology with the Air Farce and flew in the F-16 weekly. You get into more research and technology as you get more senior. I think that is what most guys join for.
I think it's pertinent question. I run into many "transitioned" APs all the time. Since Human Systems Integration (HSI) is an important component of aerospace industry and NASA, they usually have no problem staying engaged in all aspects of RDT&E and many stay on in support of NAVAIR in and around Pax River. Small, tight knit community with active get togethers within Navy and across services. I also would venture that Navy in general and aviation in particular is way ahead on HSI and physiology expertise.