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18 SEP 18 IWC Board

RecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
100 in a class is not normal, more like 70. Some classes even get as low as 25 people. Why the variation? Who knows? My guess is the reason it's lower in the winter months is because people don't want to be in RI when it's cold and whoever is running the OCS machine isn't obligated to put the max number of butts-in-seats. As far as FINSELs go, I got mine 4 days prior to my class-up date. That was fun.
More like fit and fill. If big navy has made its swo accession goal for the FY no additional swo’s can go to OCS until the next FY, which is usually around July (whenever that OCS class graduates 1 Oct or later).
 

PCORTEZ4

Pcortez4
100 in a class is not normal, more like 70. Some classes even get as low as 25 people. Why the variation? Who knows? My guess is the reason it's lower in the winter months is because people don't want to be in RI when it's cold and whoever is running the OCS machine isn't obligated to put the max number of butts-in-seats. As far as FINSELs go, I got mine 4 days prior to my class-up date. That was fun.
100 are in the class that convened just a few weeks ago, according to CANTRAC. But I do understand that it will vary. Also, 4 days prior is absurd and miserable I’m sure
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Ive never seen anyone coordinate schools for an individual sailor outside of a career counselor. Even then, they don’t do much for you but make a call to the phone number listed in CANTRAC to fill the spot which could’ve been completed by the Sailor anyhow. I fully understand how vacancies work. And with 100 seats classing up every three weeks, that’s a lot of opportunity. As it stands, there’s still over 20 vacancies in the next class that convenes on 10 feb, and over 50 in the 03 mar class that I was made available for. Past that, it goes up even higher. I’ve been reading through threads in this website, and waiting 3-5 months for a FINSEL doesn’t seem out of the ordinary. What I do think is quite bizarre is that most don’t receive them or their orders until 2 weeks prior to convening? That’s an absurd amount of time to expect a PCS, especially when you’re an AD service member.
I can understand smaller commands having people do multiple jobs, I have only been at large commands, and the CCC's were not involved in arranging schools, it was the training department and the schools coordinator, even our large departments had their own training division with a department schools coordinator, I ran that division on my last ship and the coordinator worked for me.

They do not utilize all 100, and you are thinking of it backwards, once they figure out when following on schools have openings then they look at what OCS class to put them in, they have had classes as low as 50 before, but it all depends on what the follow on schools look like.

The smaller the designator the more you can see the wait vary, there have been people here waiting for nearly a year in smaller designators.

100 are in the class that convened just a few weeks ago, according to CANTRAC. But I do understand that it will vary. Also, 4 days prior is absurd and miserable I’m sure
In regards to OCS CANTRAC is not always accurate, even when they capped OCS classes at 50 for many months the system showed they had a full class of 100, and it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to have people going to OCS from the NRD who weren't listed in CANTRAC, but they were on the spreadsheet from NRC saying they were going in a specific class.
 

PCORTEZ4

Pcortez4
For anyone with orders; are you receiving them with DIVOLC/IWBC/NIOBC already there as a follow-on, or are they simply straight to OCS and the follow-ones are received later?
 

AULANI

Well-Known Member
For anyone with orders; are you receiving them with DIVOLC/IWBC/NIOBC already there as a follow-on, or are they simply straight to OCS and the follow-ones are received later?
Your orders will only be for OCS. Towards the end of OCS you will get new orders for when you'll class-up for DIVOLC/IWBC/NIOBC. I had three months of OHARP duty between OCS grad and reporting to VA Beach.
 

PCORTEZ4

Pcortez4
So I just got an email from my enlisted detailer telling me I was selected for orders to Sasebo, Japan (I got slammed because I hadn’t been choosing). Obviously I’m not planning on fulfilling those orders, but how much is this going to screw me in the FINSEL process? I figure it will basically halt it, which is extremely frustrating considering it’s already been nearly 4 months since we were selected.
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
So I just got an email from my enlisted detailer telling me I was selected for orders to Sasebo, Japan (I got slammed because I hadn’t been choosing). Obviously I’m not planning on fulfilling those orders, but how much is this going to screw me in the FINSEL process? I figure it will basically halt it, which is extremely frustrating considering it’s already been nearly 4 months since we were selected.
They obviously won't want to pay for someone who is awaiting orders to go to OCS, I would ask your detailer what info he needs showing him that you have been selected, then get him what he needs, if he is a dick then get your COC involved.
 

PCORTEZ4

Pcortez4
They obviously won't want to pay for someone who is awaiting orders to go to OCS, I would ask your detailer what info he needs showing him that you have been selected, then get him what he needs, if he is a dick then get your COC involved.
He told me he slated me because i had an approved CWAY quota, and there’s nothing in the system which would reflect I’d been selected for an officer program. I assume he’ll probably need a page 13 relinquishing my quota so he can cancel my orders, but that’s a discussion I’ll have to wait until Monday for.
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
He told me he slated me because i had an approved CWAY quota, and there’s nothing in the system which would reflect I’d been selected for an officer program. I assume he’ll probably need a page 13 relinquishing my quota so he can cancel my orders, but that’s a discussion I’ll have to wait until Monday for.
you would think he would have access to your BUPERS file and selection results, seems like he is being a dick
 
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