I just took the OAR yesterday and agree - it seems like the math material I studied for months never appeared. I could tell I was doing shit and got kicked out early. Somewhat glad to hear I wasn't the only one who felt this way.
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I just took the OAR yesterday and agree - it seems like the math material I studied for months never appeared. I could tell I was doing shit and got kicked out early. Somewhat glad to hear I wasn't the only one who felt this way.
airgetlaam
New Member
Sup Mad,
We both did dog water and y'know what? That's okay. Not sure what your score was but I'm guessing it was close to mine, but for a first attempt we at least got eyes on the test and know how to approach it the next time. It's statistically proven that on your second retake you do better by 1-2 points in all categories I think (source: trust me lol). Or, you could be the outlier and do worse...who knows lol.
I found a trick with my pencil that got me almost %100 accuracy every time. I would find a landmark on the zoomed-in map that was straight up and down with my pencil, then rotate my pencil in the direction of the north-up map that matched the same landmarks. The direction that your pencil is pointing would be your new heading and answer. I could quickly find the new heading of the map once I practiced this for about an hour.
gtigers222
New Member
I'm taking the ASTB again in late feb and bought the HOTAS X52 to help prepare for the PBM section, but I am having trouble setting it up. I am currently using a mac and I downloaded joystick mapper and mapped the controllers but have been unable to get it to work on the Jantzen sim. If anyone has some tips on how to get that to work it would be greatly appreciated.
x15adam
SNA Applicant
Hmmm. Did you test it outside Jantzen's sim? Like does your mouse move around when you move the flight stick around (iirc that's how the mapping worked)? If not then there might be an issue with the mapping. I'm not very knowledgeable on MacOS but there might be certain limitations or permissions involved for that setup to work beyond simply mapping your controller and opening the sim. I'd recommend going to the threads specifically focused on that topic, they can probably do a better job helping you troubleshoot. https://www.airwarriors.com/communi...formance-based-measures-section.47929/page-18
gtigers222
New Member
On the joystick mapper app it shows that the controls are registering, just not sure how to connect it to the mouse settings. If thats even possible.
x15adam
SNA Applicant
Not only is it possible, but its necessary. That's the intended use case for the mapping software. The website doesn't pick up joystick and throttle input, only mouse and keyboard input - hence the mapping software (either Joy2Key or AntiMicro will do). Not sure what mapping software you're using, but either of these two will accomplish the job. My personal recommendation is AntiMicro. In here https://www.airwarriors.com/community/threads/x52-anti-micro-set-up.49830/ there's a ready to use profile on the first page you can use (assuming you're using an X52).
What material did you study and what did you see on the test, if you don't mind me asking?
NotMaverick
New Member
Long time lurker here, I just took the ASTB. This thread is a GODSEND and it helped me cram a lot of information in just two weeks of prep time. I scored a 50 5/6/6 and I’m currently a MECEPer trying to get an aviation guaranteed contract prior to TBS (I’ll be graduating next year). Will this score be enough to obtain that contract or should I start studying again to re take the ASTB?
x15adam
SNA Applicant
I don't know anything but I did find this comment by reddit user zhall92:
I also found this comment:
TLDR: If you have above a 4/6/6 or above on the ASTB (which you do), and are squared away in all the other areas you *should* be good to go.
x15adam
SNA Applicant
I have mine this Wednesday and have been practicing with that technique. I'm willing to help. DM (PM?) coming your way.
Let me know if this makes more sense for the pencil trick:
1. For the zoomed-in map on the right, take your pencil and hold it straight up and down over the map, with the pointed end facing up.
2. Find a landmark or two that aligns with your pencil vertically such as a highway, two lakes in a vertical line, a mountain ridge, a dock, two road intersections, or something else along those lines.
3. Find those same landmarks on the north-up map and hold your pencil over them in the same direction as you did on the zoomed-in map. For example: if you found two lakes in a vertical line on the zoomed-in map, and your pencil tip was over the smaller of the two lakes, your pencil tip should still be over the smaller lake in the north-up map, with the eraser end over the other lake. Notice that your pencil is now facing a new direction.
4. With your new pencil orientation, place it over the compass, and the pencil tip end will be pointing in the same direction as one of the options. The option that correlates with the pencil tip is your answer.
Note: If you can't find landmarks on the zoomed-in map that are perfectly straight up and down, don't worry. The options on the compass are spaced 30 degrees off from one another, so as long as it's relatively close to straight up and down, you should still be able to find the correct answer. It'll take quite a few reps before it clicks in your head, at least it did for me. Practice, practice, practice.
x15adam
SNA Applicant
Lots of good information in this thread. Just took it today 61 9/8/7.
--MST--
Saw radians to degrees problems, probability problems, some interesting exponent and radical problems (didn't anticipate having to take the 5th root of a fraction), logarithms, a very lengthy algebra problem, a problem where I had to express the volume of a smaller shape using the variables of a larger identical shape, and a problem where I had to figure out what the diameter of a circle would be based on an arc of the circle and line across that arc.
A lot of the material I expected to see on the test wasn't there for me, such as distance rate time, work rate time, volume and surface area calculations, ounces-pounds, ounces-gallons, unit conversions, quadratic equations, sin cos tan (trig), %change, %profit, simple and compound interest, systems of equations, matrix operations, etc.
--RCT--
Nothing new or notable here.
--MCT--
For me this area was exclusively conceptual. Thankfully didn't get any problems that required scratch paper.
--ANIT--
Questions were almost exclusively aviation related. Had maybe 3 Naval/Nautical questions.
--PBM--
On the dichotic listening test the "target" ear actually switches, it doesn't remain constant. For example in the middle of the test you might hear "Right" and immediately have to switch from listening to your Left ear to listening to your Right ear. The target ear alternated maybe 3 or 4 times during my test.
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Don't let your perception get the better of you. On a test like this it's easy to feel like you're failing, but regardless of how you feel you're doing just keep your head up and give it your all until its over. Good luck everyone.
--MST--
Saw radians to degrees problems, probability problems, some interesting exponent and radical problems (didn't anticipate having to take the 5th root of a fraction), logarithms, a very lengthy algebra problem, a problem where I had to express the volume of a smaller shape using the variables of a larger identical shape, and a problem where I had to figure out what the diameter of a circle would be based on an arc of the circle and line across that arc.
A lot of the material I expected to see on the test wasn't there for me, such as distance rate time, work rate time, volume and surface area calculations, ounces-pounds, ounces-gallons, unit conversions, quadratic equations, sin cos tan (trig), %change, %profit, simple and compound interest, systems of equations, matrix operations, etc.
--RCT--
Nothing new or notable here.
--MCT--
For me this area was exclusively conceptual. Thankfully didn't get any problems that required scratch paper.
--ANIT--
Questions were almost exclusively aviation related. Had maybe 3 Naval/Nautical questions.
--PBM--
On the dichotic listening test the "target" ear actually switches, it doesn't remain constant. For example in the middle of the test you might hear "Right" and immediately have to switch from listening to your Left ear to listening to your Right ear. The target ear alternated maybe 3 or 4 times during my test.
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Don't let your perception get the better of you. On a test like this it's easy to feel like you're failing, but regardless of how you feel you're doing just keep your head up and give it your all until its over. Good luck everyone.