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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

NevarYalnal

Well-Known Member
Any idea why they would do that? My recruiter is very difficult to communicate with. Aside from getting through MEPS im done with everything and was really hoping to submit for the next board.
could be a whole variety of reasons...you should keep an eye on the May 24 board thread on this forum to see if there's any new info though.
 

Weezyweeze

New Member
My recruiter texted me saying they are pushing the due date from April to July with a board review date of August 2nd, is anyone else hearing this?
It’s a rumor that is going around. In previous comments someone explained why it is that people are hearing different things from their recruiters. I’m not sure what they said word for word. I haven’t heard that from my recruiter though.
 

Mouselovr

Well-Known Member
Any idea why they would do that? My recruiter is very difficult to communicate with. Aside from getting through MEPS im done with everything and was really hoping to submit for the next board.
As a result of the complications with the January boards and quotas, no one (including the navy) is quite sure what's going on. The exact status of "what is" the May board is still up in the air. Rumor is that the first "normal" aviation board will be August which is likely why they are saying to submit in July.
 
Hello everyone!
  • BLUF: 55 7 8 8
  • 3.3 Engineering GPA with no flight or gaming experience
I am a short-time viewer, although I have combed through about 400 pages of this thread from the latest material looking for ways to increase my ASTB score. I should start off with my first score in which I got 49 OAR and 5 5 6. After combing through here and picking out a few study materials, I got a 55 7 8 8!! Definitely was not shaking from excitement when I received my scores after all the hard work I put in.

A few things I've learned from retaking is:
  1. Go into it like you will own all the material and nothing can touch you. I had the mindset this time, which was backed by my studying, that I could definitely get a better score than last time.
  2. The first time, my headphones were so loud I ended up stuffing them with tissues to muffle the volume. The recruiter was not able to change the volume once the test started, and since dichotic listening is at the end of the test, I couldn't do anything about it. So the second time I went, today, I asked to change the volume before he opened the test.
  3. I am an engineering major, third year college student in NROTC, but still studied the math portion. Still look over it!! It won't hurt you, except you wont be able to watch that one episode on Netflix you've been dying to watch until later.
  4. EMERGENCY PROCEDURES: This part I got all wrong the first time. RED MEANS HIGH, YELLOW MEANS LOW. I can not stress that enough since the test does not specify that. Second time I got them all right.
  5. For dichotic listening, LEAN TO THE TARGET EAR. I tried taking off the headphone of the ear blah blah blah, ultimately wastes time and adds frustration. I can not tell you enough how much better volume and leaning to the target ear helped.
  6. Study NAFTI! Trust me, flashcards are a godsend.
  7. Bring a snack for the break mid-test. I wasn't even hungry but I ate it anyways to give my brain a bit more fuel for the PBM measures portion.
  8. For the reading comprehension, READ THE PASSAGE OUT LOUD 2-3 TIMES IF YOU CAN NOT FOCUS. do it.
  9. During the tracking, focus on the joystick and peripheral the throttle. Paired with dichotic listening, getting the listening right is more important than tracking.
  10. You will not be able to keep the cross hairs on the target most of the time, do not worry about it.
  11. If you feel like you're failing at any point---- get over it, push it to the back of your brain, and continue. I answered a question wrong and right after I clicked my answer I knew it was wrong, but let it go and continued like nothing happened.
  12. I will link the materials down below:
I swear by Kyle's ASTB google folder. The MOST helpful item out of everything BY FAR.
Kyle's ASTB Study Kit:

- https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AvPi5oH_h_13TGajDvflDWkftwXO8LS6?usp=sharing

NAFTI flashcards, do them!
Compass practice, draw the compass for the test!
Mechanic practice that I didn't look at for more than 5 min (mostly because its all covered in my engineering classes)

- https://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/story.php?title=astb-mechanical-comprehension-test

JOYSTICK PRACTICE. buy one. just do it. unless you're a gamer, which I am not

- https://embed.plnkr.co/eeARqZfNMXZUZ1AurmK6/

Other material I picked up from scouring that I did not use, but someone might find them helpful and might save hours of sitting at the computer looking through this thread:
All in all, don't spend money on study books from Amazon. Use these resources and you will do great. (but that's just my two cents). Good luck!
 
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cgross220

Member
Hey everyone, figured I'd post my ASTB findings here as well. Kind of got caught off guard a bit with taking my ASTB sooner than I thought, but I was able to take about 5 days off work prior to just study all day every day. I have a decent bit of gaming/flight sim experience, I do have my PPL (about 60 hours at the time of taking my ASTB), and I'm in the last semester of my engineering degree with a 3.94 GPA. I achieved a first attempt ASTB score of 65 9/9/9.

I used Baron's Military Flight Aptitude Test study guide plus the TBAS Test Prep software.

My studying was almost entirely focused on the textbook, with only about 1-2 hours spent on the TBAS software. For those who don't know, the TBAS is the Air Force's version of the PBM section of the ASTB. There are very few similarities and time should only be spent (if you do purchase the severely overpriced software) on the Directional Orientation (parking lot) test and the Multi-Target Tracking test. The AF Multi-Target Tracking test is also a joystick/rudder test, not the joystick/throttle test that the ASTB uses so even that isn't quite the same. In general, if you're not also looking at the Air Force or don't have $60 to get rid of, the TBAS Test Prep software is NOT worth it.

Using the Baron's study guide, I started by going through the chapters I knew would be most important--the math section and the aviation information section. I initially only went through the portions of the math chapter that I was "rusty" on, and then as I already had my PPL and was fairly familiar with most of the aviation information I focused on the Navy-specific information. At this point, I took the first practice test in Baron's. I treated this as the real test, set timers accordingly (yes, this doesn't quite fit with the adaptive test type that the ASTB really is but it still ensures you don't spend 10 minutes on each problem) and I took one test right after the other without grading or taking a break. After the first test was done, I went back and graded it and corrected every question I got wrong. And when I say I corrected the question I don't just mean find out the right answer but why it's the right answer. I made sure that every subsequent question of that type I knew how to do and would get absolutely right next time.

From here, I went back over all relevant chapters--Math, Reading, Mechanics, and Aviation/Nautical Information--from front to back. I again made especially sure to focus on the Math and Aviation/Nautical information, but still went over all vocab listed in the book, classes of levers, etc. After a day or two of studying this, I took the second practice test the day before my ASTB. I again took it the same way as before, and went back through and went back over every question I got wrong.

I took the night before my test off, relaxed a bit and went to bed early. My test was not until 1300 the next day so I let myself sleep until about 0800, had a good breakfast, did a bit more studying, and got to the testing site early enough to have a light lunch in the parking lot. I still went inside pretty early and got all checked in, and even was able to start my test early.

Overall, I honestly didn't think I did great on the test when it finished. I was fully prepared to ask my recruiter when I could take it again, as when the final screen popped up with my grade I thought there was no way I got all 9s and figured it was just explaining the grading scale. That's all to say; when you're taking the test and think you're doing terrible DO NOT GIVE UP. You're only going to screw yourself if you lose steam and lose focus. No one's grading you on how well you think you're doing, so just focus on the problem in front of you and ignore how you think you're doing.

Hope this helps some of y'all getting ready to take the test, and feel free to shoot me a PM or something if you have any further questions on the ASTB not answered by the other awesome people on this thread.
 

Oshun8235

Member
Hey everyone, figured I'd post my ASTB findings here as well. Kind of got caught off guard a bit with taking my ASTB sooner than I thought, but I was able to take about 5 days off work prior to just study all day every day. I have a decent bit of gaming/flight sim experience, I do have my PPL (about 60 hours at the time of taking my ASTB), and I'm in the last semester of my engineering degree with a 3.94 GPA. I achieved a first attempt ASTB score of 65 9/9/9.

I used Baron's Military Flight Aptitude Test study guide plus the TBAS Test Prep software.

My studying was almost entirely focused on the textbook, with only about 1-2 hours spent on the TBAS software. For those who don't know, the TBAS is the Air Force's version of the PBM section of the ASTB. There are very few similarities and time should only be spent (if you do purchase the severely overpriced software) on the Directional Orientation (parking lot) test and the Multi-Target Tracking test. The AF Multi-Target Tracking test is also a joystick/rudder test, not the joystick/throttle test that the ASTB uses so even that isn't quite the same. In general, if you're not also looking at the Air Force or don't have $60 to get rid of, the TBAS Test Prep software is NOT worth it.

Using the Baron's study guide, I started by going through the chapters I knew would be most important--the math section and the aviation information section. I initially only went through the portions of the math chapter that I was "rusty" on, and then as I already had my PPL and was fairly familiar with most of the aviation information I focused on the Navy-specific information. At this point, I took the first practice test in Baron's. I treated this as the real test, set timers accordingly (yes, this doesn't quite fit with the adaptive test type that the ASTB really is but it still ensures you don't spend 10 minutes on each problem) and I took one test right after the other without grading or taking a break. After the first test was done, I went back and graded it and corrected every question I got wrong. And when I say I corrected the question I don't just mean find out the right answer but why it's the right answer. I made sure that every subsequent question of that type I knew how to do and would get absolutely right next time.

From here, I went back over all relevant chapters--Math, Reading, Mechanics, and Aviation/Nautical Information--from front to back. I again made especially sure to focus on the Math and Aviation/Nautical information, but still went over all vocab listed in the book, classes of levers, etc. After a day or two of studying this, I took the second practice test the day before my ASTB. I again took it the same way as before, and went back through and went back over every question I got wrong.

I took the night before my test off, relaxed a bit and went to bed early. My test was not until 1300 the next day so I let myself sleep until about 0800, had a good breakfast, did a bit more studying, and got to the testing site early enough to have a light lunch in the parking lot. I still went inside pretty early and got all checked in, and even was able to start my test early.

Overall, I honestly didn't think I did great on the test when it finished. I was fully prepared to ask my recruiter when I could take it again, as when the final screen popped up with my grade I thought there was no way I got all 9s and figured it was just explaining the grading scale. That's all to say; when you're taking the test and think you're doing terrible DO NOT GIVE UP. You're only going to screw yourself if you lose steam and lose focus. No one's grading you on how well you think you're doing, so just focus on the problem in front of you and ignore how you think you're doing.

Hope this helps some of y'all getting ready to take the test, and feel free to shoot me a PM or something if you have any further questions on the ASTB not answered by the other awesome people on this thread.
Congratulations. I look forward to sharing the same success story this second time around as well as help others. As far as the math what can you remember seeing?.
 

cgross220

Member
As far as the math what can you remember seeing?.
If I remember correctly the majority of questions were algebra word-problems. Studying proper order of operations is crucial as well as polynomials and factoring. Keep in mind that it is an adaptive style test, though, so the problems that it will have the most of depends on what problems you get wrong. If you study all algebra, polynomials, factoring, etc., then get two geometry problems incorrect in a row, geometry is all you'll see until you start getting them right. In other words, focus on your weaknesses in math not necessarily on what was seen more on anyone else's test
 

Oshun8235

Member
If I remember correctly the majority of questions were algebra word-problems. Studying proper order of operations is crucial as well as polynomials and factoring. Keep in mind that it is an adaptive style test, though, so the problems that it will have the most of depends on what problems you get wrong. If you study all algebra, polynomials, factoring, etc., then get two geometry problems incorrect in a row, geometry is all you'll see until you start getting them right. In other words, focus on your weaknesses in math not necessarily on what was seen more on anyone else's test
Yup gotcha. And thanks
 

SGP_777

New Member
Hello everyone, this is my first time posting here but I just wanted to get some opinions on how competitive I am with my scores. I am currently contracting for a SNA slot in the Marine Corps for the April board. I received a first attempt ASTB score of 56 7/9/7 . I am a graduating senior at Purdue University, majoring in Professional Flight with a 3.6 GPA. I have around 200 flight hours, commercial certificate, multi engine, and instrument rating. It sounds like I am lucky to have already been processed through MEPS, and I am headed down to NAMI next month. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone, this is my first time posting here but I just wanted to get some opinions on how competitive I am with my scores. I am currently contracting for a SNA slot in the Marine Corps for the April board. I received a first attempt ASTB score of 56 7/9/7 . I am a graduating senior at Purdue University, majoring in Professional Flight with a 3.6 GPA. I have around 200 flight hours, commercial certificate, multi engine, and instrument rating. It sounds like I am lucky to have already been processed through MEPS, and I am headed down to NAMI next month. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
USMC puts a lot of weight on the PFT, otherwise you look like a good candidate for them.
 
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