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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

Prometheus_

Member
That is an awesome score and GPA. Congratulations! And thank you for posting your experience! That really was, I think what I needed as like motivation! I am not a math or physics person, however, I must agree that the math and mech study guides that can be found here are very helpful! I have just been psyching myself out it seems. Ok. Thank you again for sharing your experience!
No problem! If you have any specific questions just shoot me a message. I'd be more than happy to help.
 

TheMessinger

New Member
I took the ASTB for my first time on Jan 15 and got 64 8/7/7. My GPA is 3.52 in Aerospace Engineering at PSU.

I wasn't originally going to write a post but I thought about how much this forum helped me and figured I'd give back.

So my recruiter said the test was easy and that I didn't need to study which was probably not the best advice. I started studying a week before, downloading and reading as many sample tests, guides, and tips as possible. I did not buy any books and only used the very helpful resources on this forum(I'll attach some files I used). Something that I have not seen recommended a lot on this forum is majoring in Aerospace Engineering pretty much sets you up for this test. I'm currently a junior and most of the stuff I have learned up until this point directly correlated to what was on the ASTB. Because of my major, all I needed to do was brush up on simpler math and physics material, take some practice reading tests, and memorize as much naval history and boat parts as possible. I'm going to try and keep my section reviews brief because a lot of it would just be repeating what other people have said.

MATH:
-Do as many practice problems as you can get your hands on in this forum.
-I made some dumb mistakes in this section because I was too hyped up about the test and rushed it(take your time and get the right answers).

READING:
-Do any practice tests you can and read through the passages like your life depends on it. It's really easy to get distracted so stay focused and pick the answer choice you feel is best represented.

MECHANICAL COMPREHENSION:
-For an engineering major the physics is pretty basic.
-Read every physics guide you can download and do the practice tests.
-This section is all memorizing and applying concepts.

ANIT:
-There is a good 400+ flashcard set in this forum that I used. Download the cram app and go through those before you go to bed each night.
(https://www.cram.com/flashcards/astb-aviation-nautical-information-test-anit-comprehensive-4718163)
-Luckily one of my teachers gave a 4 part aviation history lecture that also covered airplane parts(THIS WAS A MASSIVE HELP) I really wish everyone taking the test had access to this flight history/parts lecture.
-Know boat parts and slang names, airplane parts and military aircraft names, and do as much research as you can.

UAV:
-Use the flashcards.
-I knew how to do the compass trick but I had an easier time mentally flipping the compass to orient to the corresponding UAV direction.
-Something that threw me off a little was that all the flashcards have the UAV travelling at 45 degree angles. The test does not. There will be many different angles of approach.
-I went for speed and sacrificed some correct answers. I missed 3 or 4 but was selecting the choice before the audio was even done playing.

PBM:
-Write everything down you think you'll need and do your best.
-The only real advice I can give is left and right on the joystick is left and right, up and down are opposite(moving the joystick up moves your target down). I visualized a target moving and did the corresponding hand movement to follow it for a solid hour to "practice" for this section.

DICHOTIC LISTENING:
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzWfRpyVQ18

EMERGENCY PROCEDURES:
-RED MEANS HIGH & YELLOW MEANS LOW
-I messed this part up so bad because I didn't know the fact mentioned above.
-Don't think I did one right emergency procedure.
-Write the procedures down.

Again, just collect as much information as possible and actually read and take notes(a lot of notes). I remember things better if I write them down pen to paper so I have pages of as much material as I could get down in a week. I can not emphasize enough how close my college work was with this test. I'm not saying that aerospace engineering is the only way to do well but the correlation between my major work and this test was a huge help. When you don't want to study, think about why you are there and keep on grinding. Some people have success with studying for 20 mins and then taking a 5 min break over and over again. I did this here and there but I thought I should recommend it because it's proven to help with retention of material. Force yourself to study until your head hurts and it will all get easier as you get more exposure(College taught me this). I told the recruiters during my break mid-test that I messed up a lot and started to mentally prepare myself to take the test again before I even finished the one I was on. Just because you think you did bad doesn't mean you should count yourself out of the fight. Hopefully this was helpful. I chose to not go into depth because most of the past longer posts are straight gold. Read and take notes on as many things as you can get from this forum. The resources I collected into the link below were really helpful for me. Good luck to anyone preparing to take the ASTB and feel free to message me with any additional questions.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-Pm5swQ2xkrH_Kj3mrtUE4RBEg80YZzY
 

zjohn

New Member
Figured I would post my experience here. I took the ASTB yesterday, Wednesday 2/6. Thanks to all who post & help each other out.

Scored a 61; 7/7/6
Civil Engineering GPA: 2.98

There's plenty of other posts that are much more detailed than anything I would put together, so read those if you want a breakdown of each portion. I'll give my brief opinions & my mindset for the test. I find reading stuff like this just as helpful as the detailed study guides & flash cards links. So maybe it helps someone.

For the OAR-Math portion of the test, I was my own worst enemy. I definitely overthought questions & didn't work at a quick enough pace. The questions are not numbered as you work through. Different than doing a practice test when you can see where you're at. Mentally, this affected me more than I thought it would. After doing math for 30mins... I lost track and had no idea whether I completed 15, 20, or 30 problems. This got in my head.. especially when the timer ran out on me. On the flip-side, I finished the reading & mechanical well within the time limits. Quick note, my exam loved convoluted weighted averages problems, the type you finish reading and go "...wait what?".

The reading was almost worse than the personality questionnaire! I was 50/50 on so many of the questions. I didn't study for this at all, or had a test like this since the SAT though. The fact that I thought I bombed the math portion definitely distracted me from doing better on this section.

The mechanical was simple. Pretty much all conceptual / mental math type questions. Breezed through this.

The ANIT was ridiculous. I was actually a little annoyed by it.. Being decent at physics, I was confident in my understanding of lift, drag, etc. I looked over a few study guides about the parts of a plan and nautical information like the whole port/starboard, red/green type of thing. However, ANIT experience was VERY trivia based. "What WWII aircraft was the first to..." type of questions. Guessed a lot here, I'd be surprised if I hit 50%.

Personality questionnaire was total BS, as others have said. I have no idea how they can tell the type of person I am from that... but it must mean something to someone, so whatever. Just click your way through.

I had a very poor experience with the PBM. After I completed a section, and before moving on to the next.. my computer would crash. I would have to go find the admin, restart my computer each time. The servers went down, he had to call the IT guy; it was a huge pain. I basically had ~30min wait times between each section while he rebooted my computer. My entire exam time was almost 5hrs because of this.

I would recommend studying for the spatial apperception without the compass trick. I basically did the compass thing.. but with my hands, not a piece of paper. It seems speed is the key here, and doing my weird thing with my hand definitely makes it hard to get good times. I thought I was relatively quick.. 3-4 seconds each. I think I had 2 goofs that I really just clicked the wrong parking lot because I was rushing to get the best time. Again, this is different than the practice flashcards you do. I was mentally thinking the answer while doing the flash cards.. during the test you have to go back to the mouse & click. Doesn't seem like much, but definitely adds to your time. Plus its just another thing to do and think about. I couldn't imagine fumbling with a piece of paper and then jumping for the mouse to click my answer.

If I could go back and do the tracking / listening portion again, I am so confident I would get much better scores. The computer crashing between each section kept getting me out of focus. Instead of progressing through how the test was designed... I felt like I was at square one each time I started a new section. Since my computer kept crashing... I had to go through the calibration screen like a hundred times. I used this to mess around with the flightstick. Just know that when you're calibrating, the controls are NOT inverted. But you can get a feel of how fast the reticle moves. I didn't think I would have much of a problem with inverted controls, but I struggled. Maybe it's not having surrounding scenery to associate with that makes it difficult, I don't know. I truly felt I was fighting myself the whole time. Honestly as it progressed and added the listening & emergency procedures, I felt it got easier. I could like "tune-out" and just let myself do it. Actually found it fun towards the end.

I took a pretty relaxed approach to the test. I probably studied for 4 nights? Read all sorts of posts from here while procrastinating at work and such. I'm sure this is reflected in my scores.. I know with a little more effort I would hit higher. But hey I made my bed, I'll sleep in it.

I did two nights of practice tests & a little youtubing to brush up on those pre-calc type of things. Then I did two nights of studying for the ANIT & spatial apperception. I figured I'm not finalizing my application till April, so I have time for a second test. Why not take it & see where I struggle to focus on those areas?

Just don't psyche yourself out. Anyone who has any type of technical degree has done math & physics way beyond the realm of this test. Its really about dusting the cobwebs off some of the more basic stuff. I let how I performed on the math section get in my head. But just keep pushing, worrying about your score isn't going to help it get any better. Same with the PBM... I thought I was tanking it. While waiting for the results, I was already giving myself the pep-talk to not freak if I see 45; 5/5/5. I was pleasantly surprised to see how my scores ended up.

Talking with the folks at the NRD office, I'm going to submit with these scores. They seemed confident, certainly more than I am. There's some competitive scores/gpa's around here. Like everyone, I sure wish I could go back & turn in a few more homeworks to get my GPA above a 3.0. I am very confident I can hit higher scores, so they said to apply & see if I make it. Re-testing with higher marks is sound reasoning for resubmitting. No need to take the gamble before even applying once.

My approach certainly wasn't the best. Another week of studying and a working computer would have me feeling more confident right about now.. but don't over-do it. Get out there, give it a shot, & make it happen.

Cheers, hope to meet some of you along the way.
Zach
 
Hello everyone!
I just came across this forum about 2 days ago. I'm scheduled to take the OAR on the 2/21 and I'm nervous as hell. I graduated from college with a 3.0 with a BS in MIS... 10 years ago. Most of my career has been in the finance sector where I am a System Admin. I have an opportunity to join in under IT so I have been studying to the best of my ability for a few months now. I've ordered the 5 LB GRE book, OAR Secrets Study Guide from Mometrix, ASTB Study Guide 2018, and I have the Master The ASVAB (23rd Ed) books along with other testing sites like Trivium Test Prep, Peterson's Practice, and Khan Academy or ASVAB android apps.

I feel like the Reading Comprehension in the GRE is overkill compared to everything else I have been reading. Would others agree?
I know Math is Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry and Data Analysis... but do the math problems lean word based or straight computation?
As far as Mechanical, it is looking like I'm lacking here up until I hit circuits/current/voltage/etc. Are these questions with pictures or is a lot of it written out for computation?
Can I take blank paper and pencil with me?

Many thanks in advance! This site is fantastic so far!
 

Jmack2019

New Member
Hello everyone!
I just came across this forum about 2 days ago. I'm scheduled to take the OAR on the 2/21 and I'm nervous as hell. I graduated from college with a 3.0 with a BS in MIS... 10 years ago. Most of my career has been in the finance sector where I am a System Admin. I have an opportunity to join in under IT so I have been studying to the best of my ability for a few months now. I've ordered the 5 LB GRE book, OAR Secrets Study Guide from Mometrix, ASTB Study Guide 2018, and I have the Master The ASVAB (23rd Ed) books along with other testing sites like Trivium Test Prep, Peterson's Practice, and Khan Academy or ASVAB android apps.

I feel like the Reading Comprehension in the GRE is overkill compared to everything else I have been reading. Would others agree?
I know Math is Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry and Data Analysis... but do the math problems lean word based or straight computation?
As far as Mechanical, it is looking like I'm lacking here up until I hit circuits/current/voltage/etc. Are these questions with pictures or is a lot of it written out for computation?
Can I take blank paper and pencil with me?

Many thanks in advance! This site is fantastic so far!
Hi Bumbles! First and foremost, welcome to this forum! To the point, Math is more word heavy as you will see in the numerous practice tests and also in the previous posts here. You don't bring anything with you to the test, there is a website that tells you everything you need to know about the test, like what to bring and not to bring. I've heard also that the ASTB and OAR are similar to the GRE, maybe even harder.
I wish you the best of luck and if you wouldn't mind, please tell me how it goes, I take the OAR a day after you
 

Jmack2019

New Member
Hello everyone!
I just came across this forum about 2 days ago. I'm scheduled to take the OAR on the 2/21 and I'm nervous as hell. I graduated from college with a 3.0 with a BS in MIS... 10 years ago. Most of my career has been in the finance sector where I am a System Admin. I have an opportunity to join in under IT so I have been studying to the best of my ability for a few months now. I've ordered the 5 LB GRE book, OAR Secrets Study Guide from Mometrix, ASTB Study Guide 2018, and I have the Master The ASVAB (23rd Ed) books along with other testing sites like Trivium Test Prep, Peterson's Practice, and Khan Academy or ASVAB android apps.

I feel like the Reading Comprehension in the GRE is overkill compared to everything else I have been reading. Would others agree?
I know Math is Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry and Data Analysis... but do the math problems lean word based or straight computation?
As far as Mechanical, it is looking like I'm lacking here up until I hit circuits/current/voltage/etc. Are these questions with pictures or is a lot of it written out for computation?
Can I take blank paper and pencil with me?

Many thanks in advance! This site is fantastic so far!
The website is easy to find, just Google OAR Navy test. It's like the second Google link or so. Also, again you can find it actually looking through this forum. This forum has a lot of really really great material. Good luck!
 

Scimitarze

Member
Hello everyone!
I just came across this forum about 2 days ago. I'm scheduled to take the OAR on the 2/21 and I'm nervous as hell. I graduated from college with a 3.0 with a BS in MIS... 10 years ago. Most of my career has been in the finance sector where I am a System Admin. I have an opportunity to join in under IT so I have been studying to the best of my ability for a few months now. I've ordered the 5 LB GRE book, OAR Secrets Study Guide from Mometrix, ASTB Study Guide 2018, and I have the Master The ASVAB (23rd Ed) books along with other testing sites like Trivium Test Prep, Peterson's Practice, and Khan Academy or ASVAB android apps.

I feel like the Reading Comprehension in the GRE is overkill compared to everything else I have been reading. Would others agree?
I know Math is Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry and Data Analysis... but do the math problems lean word based or straight computation?
As far as Mechanical, it is looking like I'm lacking here up until I hit circuits/current/voltage/etc. Are these questions with pictures or is a lot of it written out for computation?
Can I take blank paper and pencil with me?

Many thanks in advance! This site is fantastic so far!
I definitely got more word problems than straight "solve for x" type of problems.
 

Rahul Gupta

Member
Howdy ya'll,

It's official. I went from a 6/6/6 46 (1st attempt) to a 7/7/6 53 (2nd attempt) today. I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone on this forum for being a monumental step in my improvement. It has been a very big transformational experience for me and I could not be anymore thankful!

So here's my 0.02....

Allot at least 3 months before your test (I personally studied for a whole 6 months including my 1st attempt studies, however, it took me longer bc of my aerospace egr. curriculum) Study everything from page 1-311 of this forum as I have, like, buy a notebook and take super detailed notes cause I can guarantee that a lot of the questions I saw on there were somewhere on this Forum. As for prep books, use the Barrons Military Flight aptitude (I used 3rd edition but there's a new 4th edition, not that it really matters since they are identical)., ASTB Study guide 2018, ASTB Trivium and ASTB-E Secrets. I also bough an Peterson's 6th edition GRE/GMAT Math book and as you can see from my scores, it definitely helped!

Here are some links that helped me out and I'm sure will help you to:
  1. http://www.nelnetsolutions.com/pdf/free/masterofficercandidate.pdf
  2. https://docslide.net/documents/astb-study-guide-and-drill-sheet.html
  3. https://www.cram.com/flashcards/astb-aviation-nautical-information-test-anit-comprehensive-4718163
  4. https://sites.google.com/site/thebasicsofaviation/rudder-empennage-and-ailerons
  5. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/intro.htm
  6. http://www.nelnetsolutions.com/pdf/free/MasterMilitaryFlight.pdf
  7. https://www.airwarriors.com/community/threads/new-updated-astb-study-guides-gouges-and-links.37407/
  8. https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/intro.htm
  9. https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/beginner.htm
  10. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qHP7UgdlcG_8MWka5XnTuNGl4Q-hqL3b
  11. https://www.airwarriors.com/community/threads/astb-e-apex-4-experience-dec-2013.41357/page-9 (look for parking lot pdf)
  12. https://www.airwarriors.com/community/threads/astb-e-apex-4-experience-dec-2013.41357/ (another good gouge to venture on if time permits)
  13. https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/phak/media/pilot_handbook.pdf (updated faa handbook)
  14. https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://www.pea.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Airport_traffic_pattern-cc-.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.pea.com/blog/posts/airport-traffic-pattern/&h=333&w=800&tbnid=N_riltTUiRaJrM:&q=landing+pattern&tbnh=83&tbnw=200&usg=AI4_-kSwDi33VyUkO4hzvxl_ktr28PZztw&vet=12ahUKEwjL7JnZj53fAhWG11kKHQeSDDAQ_B0wG3oECAIQBg..i&docid=ew2qJt6CZRZrvM&itg=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjL7JnZj53fAhWG11kKHQeSDDAQ_B0wG3oECAIQBg (air traffic patterns)
15) https://www.ck12.org/earth-science/pressure-and-density/lesson/Pressure-and-Density-of-the-Atmosphere-MS-ES/ (pressure v. density article good read)
16) http://msrc.sunysb.edu/~chang/atm205/Notes/Chapter_1_txtb.pdf
17) https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=609&ei=Lk4VXK2XO9LX5gKXtqLoAg&q=swashplate&oq=swashplate&gs_l=img.3..0l10.943.4640..5006...0.0..1.80.628.10......1....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.iz8MiGCf10I#imgrc=8xfRTYlIvQYXFM: (good diagram of swashplate)

18) AND all the other stuff you can gett off of this gouge!

It's been one hell of a ride and I look forward to seeing you all in the fleet after I graduate from VT and the Corps of Cadets!
 

Broncophoenix24

New Member
Figured it's time I added to this post.

I want to begin with thanking all those who have participated in this forum, from top to bottom this is the most helpful ASTB resource I found. The accumulation of tips, tricks and combined experience found here is incredible and should be studied like gospel by all those hoping to succeed on either the OAR or ASTB. That being said, this post will just be my experience taking the test, and what I felt helped my efforts. If you want guides, practice problems, fact sheets, links to helpful videos, etc, look on this forum. You want it, it's already been posted.

Some info about me: I have a B.A. in General Physics with a minor in mathematics, GPA of 3.496. I spent around 2 months studying for the test, started studying heavily about 2 weeks prior to the test. I took my ASTB-E on 1/28/19, scored 57 7/7/7 on my first attempt.

Math: My background helped a lot with this one, had a lot of velocity, average and problems with roots. Biggest issue I had was relearning how to do everything by hand instead of using the calculator. After that everything is just practice until you can do it without overthinking it.

Reading:
Didn't study as much for this, and I probably should have. One thing I noticed was I kept getting questions with military orders, (i.e. when do you step in to correct an enlisted sailors behavior) instead of paragraph's on various topics (i.e. summary of somethings history) like I had thought. I tripped up more than I thought I would in this section.

Mechanical Comprehension: My background helped even more in this section. Really simple conceptual type questions, the guides on this section will tell you everything you need to know. Any math you encounter is easy enough to be done in your head.

Aviation/Nautical: Was a lot different than I expected. I spent time studying FAA regulations and Naval terms, but the test was much more trivia based. More things you would learn watching history channel documentaries or going to air shows, less "what type of airspace is more restricted?" or "How many feet is X fathoms?"
I now know what a windlass is, but I'm disappointed that it was never asked about during the test.

Trait Inventory: A drag to get through, just keep clicking the first one that fits you, don't overthink it.

PBM: This was a stress filled nightmare to get through, I thought I bombed it so bad that in the middle of taking this section I was planning when I could retake the test. I used the compass trick for the UAV portion, but should have spent more time studying the flash cards to build muscle memory. The ones I got right I averaged 1-2 seconds on, I got many more wrong than I had hoped. For the stick and throttle tests you're going to think you're doing terrible the whole time. Best thing to do is buy a stick and throttle set and play as many flight games as you can. I bought a PS4 Thrustmaster controller, hooked it up to my laptop and played World of Warplanes. At the low tiers all you have are guns, and there are enough erratic pilots to give you all the practice you need. Plus it acted as a "study break" from flashcards and math practice. The dichotic listening is straight forward, focus on the correct ear and you'll do fine. There's about a 2 second window per prompt to push the right button, so you can make sure it's correct. Write down your emergency procedures, focus on getting those right more than the tracking.

I was shocked when I got my test results, I didn't think I did well at all during the test. Just study hard and don't get discouraged, f you're reading this then you're already in the right place to succeed.

Good luck to you!
 

Rahul Gupta

Member
Also, to any current or former Naval Aviators, how good do my chances look solely from going from a 6/6/6 46 to a 7/7/6 53? While they are improvements and my NROTC Adviser is content with them, I just wanted to hear a side opinion, like if it is worth a third re-test to get 7's and 8's or if you would just follow through with these scores.

A little info about me...
-I am a junior cadet in the VTCC and a 2/C NROTC MID. I will also be here for 2 more years so I graduate in 21'.
My current cumulative GPA: 3.32
Current ASTB-E: 7/7/6 53
Major: Aerospace and Ocean engineering
Extracurricular: Naval Aviation Society (a little weak in this category so I'll look into joining something else)

I know this is another one of those "chance me" posts and nobody can know for sure but any opinion is truly helpful. Especially since a lot of those posts date back to as far as 03' and I was just wondering how I stand within this time frame. Thank you so much for your time and help 😁
 
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Also, to any current or former Naval Aviators, how good do my chances look solely from going from a 6/6/6 46 to a 7/7/6 53? While they are improvements and my NROTC Adviser is content with them, I just wanted to hear a side opinion, like if it is worth a third re-test to get 7's and 8's or if you would just follow through with these scores.

A little info about me...
-I am a junior cadet in the VTCC and a 2/C NROTC MID. I will also be here for 2 more years so I graduate in 21'.
My current cumulative GPA: 3.32
Current ASTB-E: 7/7/6 53
Major: Aerospace and Ocean engineering
Extracurricular: Naval Aviation Society (a little weak in this category so I'll look into joining something else)

I know this is another one of those "chance me" posts and nobody can know for sure but any opinion is truly helpful. Especially since a lot of those posts date back to as far as 03' and I was just wondering how I stand within this time frame. Thank you so much for your time and help 😁
Have you read through the SNFO/SNA Board threads to get an idea of who is getting a PROREC? I think a third attempt would be entirely unnecessary; you could have a bad day, bomb it, and ruin your chances forever. FTR, I received one last month with a 6/7/7 57, 3.10 GPA and an age waiver. I also haven't even graduated yet. I definitely think you're good
 

Rahul Gupta

Member
Have you read through the SNFO/SNA Board threads to get an idea of who is getting a PROREC? I think a third attempt would be entirely unnecessary; you could have a bad day, bomb it, and ruin your chances forever. FTR, I received one last month with a 6/7/7 57, 3.10 GPA and an age waiver. I also haven't even graduated yet. I definitely think you're good
Roger that. Thank you! Also I have not checked that thread, but will do!
 

amccask

Member
I hope this is okay but just looking to help out. I was selected SNA and heading to OCS in a few weeks. I have a bunch of ASTB study material to give away - books, note-cards, print outs, etc if anyone is interested in them? I bought them all on amazon. Not looking for any money except to just cover the shipping cost. Shoot me a PM if interested. Good Luck!
 

Austin-Powers

Lean and Mean!
So I took the ASTB on the fly (no pun intended har har har) and I scored a 1/1/1 and an OAR of 25 and I honestly feel like a jackass. I guess what concerns me I guess is the fact that I failed it. I was wondering if the NAFIT had anything to do with it.
 

Jmack2019

New Member
So I took the ASTB on the fly (no pun intended har har har) and I scored a 1/1/1 and an OAR of 25 and I honestly feel like a jackass. I guess what concerns me I guess is the fact that I failed it. I was wondering if the NAFIT had anything to do with it.
What do mean you took it on the fly? Not trying to be mean at all; just genuinely curious. Like, you didn't study at all for it?
 
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