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Not helpful and not funny. Getting wink to talk solutions vice constantly putting him on the defensive would actually be very productive considering he knows a lot more than most of us about the internal policies and procedures of LEOs. The public is constantly getting on the police for failure...

Wink, I think that the issue here is that through the last 30 pages, you have yet to recognize that there can be anything wrong with policing in the U.S. I mean, we have threads on this forum going on for dozens of pages discussing issues from the fitrep system to GMT to 'no-tolerance' policies...

I mean, I did post a personal anecdote about a family member cop who was complicit in a sexual assault and kept his job. I know it's not murder per se...

I'm a big advocate of reopening but misleading garbage like this isn't useful. Kids are largely unexposed to COVID-19 because they've been mostly quarantined. This says nothing of the future state.

If I were to distill this 100+ page report to a punch line, it wouldn't be what you quoted. The author is obviously frustrated with the sparse data, but there's a lot more meat there.

Looks like CNO is also banning the Confederate flag. Surprised it took until 2020 to ban military personnel from flying a flag that represents violent rebellion against the US, let alone that the aim of the rebellion was to preserve slavery. Belongs in the same category as the Nazi and ISIL flags.

Although the merits of whether police should unionize are debatable, the fact is that these officers work under a labor agreement negotiated by a union that periodically gets reviewed, updated, and renewed. They pay dues to get protection that the agreement is honored. It's bad form to change...

Flash, you're getting lost in a lot of details that haven't been fleshed out yet. Bottom line is the cops resigned due to a perceived sudden reduction in benefits as a result of punishment for something they didn't do.

You must have missed the first page or two of the thread. The military is committed to treating everyone fairly and takes diversity seriously. Those who go against the each service's core values are held accountable, provided it's reported. If a prospective sailor is looking for the board to...

I never said to go injured. 10:50 exceeds the minimum standard for 20-24 y.o. males by 2:45.

You and every sailor who deploys in 2020-2021 will be left wondering

This is bad gouge. Candidates definitely want to be in as best shape as possible, but as long as a candidate can pass the in-PFA, they will be fine.

I used Jefferson because he was a stalwart of the human rights aspect of the revolution. For the majority of colonial leaders, we went to war because our taxes were too high and British soldiers were acting like twats. It was an opportunity for governors to power grab, and that's why the...

Except for the debate at the time on what to do about blacks and Indians. Everything from genocide to sending them overseas to creating a piece of America for them to live as their own country was on the table... but integration into American society was not. Jefferson, for example, believed...

You assume wrong. I said in a post right above yours that the south went to war to preserve slavery. My point is that the Constitution at the time endorsed slavery, and the south fought for the right to retain this practice. Pointing out that Lee's loyalty is to the Constitution is actually an...

The Constitution of the United States at the time specifically allowed and regulated slavery. If we want to go this route, not a single officer should have supported the union. And at the time, state political leaders believed that participation in the Union was voluntary - that was the whole...

I don't think that this analogy holds. Large gap between John Q Public deciding whether to draft dodge the Wehrmacht and a senior military leader having to decide to go down in history as a traitor to the US, a traitor to the state of Virginia, or a coward. It's worth noting that history over...

First, let me get this out here: I think anyone that currently flies a Confederate flag should be arrested for treason. That is a symbol for violent rebellion against the United States. But if we're going to study and analyze history, dismissing Lee as simply a traitor who abandoned his oath is...

I think that the detail that is lost is that political and military leaders used to put allegiance to the states over the federal government. This value system didn't fully shift until the 20th century and WWI/II. From a moral 'what do I do perspective,' Lee was faced with three choices: 1)...

Not a chance that a Dem President takes this on. The political cost would almost guarantee a one term presidency. Republicans could possibly pull it off.

First, Wink, I have several close family members in LE. Conversations about the job occur very frequently at family gatherings. They, like you, were reluctant to call a spade a spade. It's only when I asked them point blank 'are you trained to arrest people like that' did I get a 'what he did...

Arguing over when it is or isn't okay to riot is the wrong conversation, and is frankly irrelevant. How do we get police to stop murdering people, and how do we get them to hold themselves more accountable so people don't want to riot is the right conversation.

This is why Brett dismissed you as part of the problem. Instead of critically assessing why people are rioting, you dismiss the behavior as childish and not worth any further thought. The police need to learn the moral of the phrase 'perception is reality.'

Right, but that's relatively irrelevant to the messaging. Police tend to band together behind the 'thin blue line' rather than decry behavior that is categorically abhorrent. Compare and contrast this with the military's attitude and initial policy toward the Gallegher case, and the police PR...

I think what he means is that when something like this happens, police should unequivocally say 'that behavior was not in accordance with our training and core values. He was fired for his behavior and hopefully the legal system will hold him accountable to the maximum extent possible.' Instead...

I think that these riots are revealing that there is a significant minority of people who have no concept of how they are required to interact with LEO, let alone how they should. Yes, police are legally allowed to tell people what to do. Yes, they are legally allowed to use force to get people...

Not in the news it ain't.

Nope. Now it's a conversation about Trump inciting violence and censorship on Twitter.

According to her strict definition of racism, it doesn't exist in America. Not only are there absolutely no formal institutional policies regarding the mistreatment of people because of their race, having one is specifically forbidden by law.

This is by design. When I called the number from the official navy website listed on the officer program page, it was to the local enlisted recruiter. Went in for a meeting and two Sailors heckled me for a good 5 minutes for wanting to become an officer and stated ridiculous (and fake)...

This is what I remember of the print NYT. Dry, gory details and a sprinkling of SAT words. On a good deployment, there's probably enough material to fill a single movie with a lot of time compression.

Growing up, the NYT had a prestigious reputation among journalists and readers. Granted their main competition was the NY Post and Daily News, both papers that are borderline tabloids. Once news went digital, the NYT refused to adapt at first. This resulted in tough times for them and they've...

In that case I'm going to carry on not caring about Google paying someone to advertise the microwave I already bought last month.

Do you have a transcript? I don't like watching videos when I can read the salient points in 1/10 the time.

I view getting my browser history as the virtual version of observing which stores I went to last year. In the end, I don't have any expectation of privacy in a public space, and if spending resources on gathering that data so google/Facebook/whatever can aggressively market appliances from Home...

Not so Fun fact: 1.5 million people worldwide died from tuberculosis in 2018. It's consistently been the most deadly infectious disease in recent times. We keep comparing COVID-19 to flu statistics but ignore other infections.

Doesn't quite work for sailors living in the barracks or on board ships.

It's not just the TR and deploying units, though. The restrictions implemented in March remain in effect today because the DoD is still HPCON C-. Some highlights: -There is still a stop movement of all PCS in effect - not just to/from the NY/NJ/CT area. -Sailors who live on base are not...

We have people who are trained and cerified to diagnose SARS without the need of a lab test. COVID-19 might be a new virus, but the illness it causes has been around for centuries.

Hot take: testing doesn't matter from a practical perspective. It only provides numbers for the people with pocket protectors to analyze and for cum dumpster cable news anchors to scare you.

Yea but you can't prove that those other states won't become like NY if the economy opens. And thus is the logical fallacy our political leaders have followed for the last 3-4 weeks.

Except when you're at your OCS dining in sitting at a 6-8 person table.

I mean, I was talking about cell phones in public places. But sure.

I'm surprised that this isn't more common. My brother likes wearing hats. When we were growing up, my dad would smack it off his head (by hitting the bill of the hat) if he wore it indoors, and would throw it out if worn at the dinner table. Yet I didn't find out you were supposed to wait for...

This just in: Congressional members engaged in political grand standing. More at 11!

This is some old man yells at cloud bullshit. The culprit is Dr. Fauci and the CDC, who continue to advocate for restrictive policies in spite of overwhelming evidence that their models for hospitalizations were off by at least an order of magnitude. The politicians are following the advice of...

We learned about corrupt political bosses circa 1860-1920 in NY in 8th grade. Martin Scorsese made a movie out of it. The more things change...

I think what's missed on these internet lawyers is the 'who is the authority on interpreting the legality of these matters...' We can cry on the internet about [insert EO] being unconstitutional, but that's relatively inconsequential. If the state or federal legislative branches aren't...