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Aviation Uniforms and Customs for the new ENS

SynixMan

HKG Based Artificial Excrement Pilot
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Ball caps with flight suits. I personally don't wear a ballcap with my NWU's (on the rare yearly occasion I wear them), but I probably will capitulate on that one eventually. Not with a flightsuit though. Piss cutter with a dip.

I never got the ballcap with flight suit since it didn’t fold flat nicely in a pocket like the piss cutter. ??‍♂️

Type 3s, sure. Show pride with the troops or feel less like a crayon eater on staff duty.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
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I never got the ballcap with flight suit since it didn’t fold flat nicely in a pocket like the piss cutter. ??‍♂️
It blocks the sun. The garrison cover is a useless pin-carrying device for that purpose. I'm cover-agnostic; I go back and forth between the two.

Of course, lately I'm wearing neither, and cultivating my quarantine beard whilst tele-drilling. :D
 

AllAmerican75

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Yeah, I imagine the end of Subic Bay was the last door to slam on that kind of thing. Kind of sad in a way. Where does this generation of sailors get their cheap graphic tees, mahogany desk nameplates, and similar stuff?

For us slow moving surface types, the Bahrainis have been doing a lot of business providing the various accoutrements for properly adorning one's office, desk, and self. I have many friends who came back from deployment with an entire wardrobe of suits and tuxedos as well as Persian rugs and jewelry for their wife/fiancee/special lady friend.
 

CommodoreMid

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That picture brings up another point, don’t wear the cover dip (or whatever you call it) as a fresh ENS.

Now I’m curious when people in different communities generally see it as acceptable. In my VP squadron nearly everyone wears a logo ball cap and skipper is the only person I’ve seen wear the dip.

Late to the party but VP DH here and have never seen anyone give a fuck either way on dip vs no dip. I only recently started wearing the ball cap, nice in Florida given the sun, but in Whidbey wore the garrison. And I have always done the dip since Pensacola.
 

Waveoff

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Late to the party but VP DH here and have never seen anyone give a fuck either way on dip vs no dip. I only recently started wearing the ball cap, nice in Florida given the sun, but in Whidbey wore the garrison. And I have always done the dip since Pensacola.
I didn't see anyone wearing one in Jax at the FRS. I think a rumor spread at Pcola or 30 that it was something you earned by going on a full deployment or getting qualified.
 

johnboyA6E

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in late 80's early '90s, i think i remember the 'deployment dip', you weren't supposed to dip until you had a cruise under your belt. not that anyone really cared one way or the other

brown leathers were worn anytime you wanted, that's why they were issued. i remember the diff between the studs and the instructors was that only the studs wore leather, all the instructors wore nomex jackets and you didn't get one of those till you got to your fleet squadron
 

GroundPounder

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Ballcaps seem to have originated with Marine squadrons in the Pacific during WWII.

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The St.Louis Cardinals, after receiving literally tens of letters have issued the following statement:

" As an organization, we are committed to peaceful and non-violent resolution of all conflict. We are taking steps to identify the person within our organization that sent these items, and that person will be dealt with appropriately. We apologize to anyone that has been offended in any way, and are remain committed to our values as a team, and organization. "
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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There are still a few brick-and-mortar places near some of the bases that cater to this market. The squadron PAOs (JO job) usually have some passdown on who to go to.

Otherwise, you order the stuff online, it probably gets made in China, and it magically shows up in the mail a few weeks later.
Sure, a great value no doubt, but somehow “just outside the gate” doesn’t quite equal “just across shit river, two blocks up Magsaysay, ask for Tina.”
 

Renegade One

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Ballcaps seem to have originated with Marine squadrons in the Pacific during WWII.
Not sure when ball caps came into widespread Navy use...but here's a group photograph of personnel of the U.S. Navy Fighting Squadron VF-11 Sundowners at Naval Air Station Kahului, Maui, Territory of Hawaii, in January 1943. From April to July 1943, VF-11 would be deployed to Guadalcanal, its pilots downing 55 enemy aircraft in aerial combat. Three ball caps are in evidence:
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