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Aviation Uniforms and Customs for the new ENS
- Thread starter jointhelocalizer
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He can't be, no one has red word bubbles or is pointing to a watch.I can't unsee this.... ugh@mad dog is somewhere in there
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the 70s are deservedly dead and buried.
Gaudy...sure, it these guys are, I believe, coming off their 1971/72 Vietnam tour. They get to dress up like a banana all they want. One day it will be cool again. ?
In our defense, wearing our white shoes with these shit hots was the Skipper's idea...
Are you part of this sporty group I discovered quite by accident? Funky flight suits aside, I love seeing the old Phantom’s with their colorful tail feathers.
Standing second from right in the group photo. Here's me and my parents at my first fly-in:
By the shades of yellow/gold/whatever, those had been around for a while. Screw the haters, those were cool.
That picture brings up another point, don’t wear the cover dip (or whatever you call it) as a fresh ENS.
Now I’m curious when people in different communities generally see it as acceptable. In my VP squadron nearly everyone wears a logo ball cap and skipper is the only person I’ve seen wear the dip.
Now I’m curious when people in different communities generally see it as acceptable. In my VP squadron nearly everyone wears a logo ball cap and skipper is the only person I’ve seen wear the dip.
Really? I’d say 95% of TACAIR folks dip. You look like a fucking Chief otherwise.
Really? I wore it as a student and still do to this day. My attitude was "look like a SWO, dress like a SWO, act like a SWO, gonna be a SWO." I just never wore the wings before earning them (wouldn't even buy them, nothing, resented the little mini pair they give you at the Academy, etc.), and admittedly, never wore the jacket as a student. As an IP, never saw any hate towards students who wore the jacket. Never would have said anything about a dip in the cover either. I think it looks way better than the "tail"/overhang of the top over the back of the head which looks atrocious, ill-fitting and lazy to me.
Didn't the dip come from VP anyway? I thought it mostly started with the long flights in the PBYs and the pilots would wear their covers while flying as just one more layer of padding between their heads and the radio headsets that existed at the time. I always thought it was a neat tradition that we have compared to the USAF "sound barrier" dippers for lack of a better term.
The only people who have ever commented on it negatively to me were an ENS on my first day of API who ended up failing out of Primary (he wore black shoes and no dip! I told him my saying: "look like a SWO, dress like a SWO, act like a SWO, gonna be a SWO," but he didn't believe me!) who swore at me up and down that I didn't earn it yet because it was reserved only for people who broke the sound barrier and I told him that's a USAF tradition; and a CMC who on his first day to the squadron said the regulations stated that the cover was to be worn straight, and I told him it was in a straight line on my head. He didn't like it but never bothered me about it again; it helped that my shoes at the time were so shiny it was nearly blinding to him, lucky for me that duty day I guess. Ended up earning said CMC's respect and he earned mine.
As far as ballcaps go, my onwing in Primary told me on day one if he ever saw me in one he'd never stop making fun of me because they aren't for officers and real Naval Aviators wore the garrison cover with a dip (he was a C-2 guy). I took him for his word and didn't start wearing one regularly until this staff tour I am on now; I always liked the way the garrison cover looked - just seemed very "Naval Aviation" to me.
When I was in the training command plenty of Navy dudes wore black shoes, because they were wearing aquaflage smurf cammies.
You mean black boots I assume?
My flight school experience was exclusively khakis or flight suits.
About 1/3 of the way through my first JO squadron tour did I buy a pair and only because my Skipper made us for a uniform inspection he wanted. I wore them a total of 3 times in my life: aforementioned uniform inspection day, a duty day that we normally wore khakis for but I asked to wear them as I was serving and cutting Thanksgiving turkeys, and for a reenlistment that a Sailor requested I wore them for just because he thought I'd look funny in them because he couldn't picture any of the pilots in them.
When I was in advanced, 2009-2010 duty standers wore khakis or smurf cammies or real cammies.