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Iran

taxi1

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We killed two of their commanders. They have a funeral where 50 of their people are trampled to death, retaliate by shooting missiles that kill none of our people, and shoot down an airliner full of their people that just took off from their main airport.

Good job, Iran.
A bunch of Canadians on board.

I was in when the Vincennes shot down the Iran airliner in 1988.

Emotions are running high and folks are tight as a drum. This is exactly when someone gets excitable and pulls the trigger on the wrong target. Super easy to do something stupid right now, and it sounds like some dude did it.
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
This is exactly when someone gets excitable and pulls the trigger on the wrong target. Super easy to do something stupid right now, and it sounds like some dude did it.
Someone pulled the trigger on the wrong target or the battery was set to automatic, which is almost the same thing.
 

AIRMMCPORET

Plan “A” Retired
A bunch of Canadians on board.

I was in when the Vincennes shot down the Iran airliner in 1988.

Emotions are running high and folks are tight as a drum. This is exactly when someone gets excitable and pulls the trigger on the wrong target. Super easy to do something stupid right now, and it sounds like some dude did it.

I was on the FID when that happened in the North Arabian Sea.???⚓️
 

Treetop Flyer

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A bunch of Canadians on board.

I was in when the Vincennes shot down the Iran airliner in 1988.

Emotions are running high and folks are tight as a drum. This is exactly when someone gets excitable and pulls the trigger on the wrong target. Super easy to do something stupid right now, and it sounds like some dude did it.
Yes, lots of Canadians. It’s sad regardless of the nationalities of the victims, but it’s not like they were people who just happened to be flying through. They were likely returning from visiting family, and this blunder will not go over well there.
 

johnboyA6E

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If I were sitting in the terminal waiting for my flight, and watching the outbound missiles on the TV, and hearing about how they were going to fuck up any incoming attacks, then my flight started boarding a few hours later.....

i'd like to think i'd be smart enough to switch to a later flight

what happened is terrible, and i feel for all the victims (seriously), but what Trump said was true, "they were flying in a rough neighborhood"

thankfully, FAA issued NOTAMs when they did
 
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HAL Pilot

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I was in when the Vincennes shot down the Iran airliner in 1988.
I was on the FID when that happened in the North Arabian Sea.???⚓
I was flying in a P-3 working with Vincennes and her helo when it happened.

The after a quick gas stop I was back on top the wreckage looking for survivors and taking pictures less than 2 hours later.

Quite the rapid change in emotions... Yeah! to Oh Shit! in the blink of an eye.

To this day I still say something was fishy about the whole thing. We took pictures of floating bloated bodies. It takes days not 2 hours for bodies to bloat. Vincennes definitely f’ed up but there is more to the story I don’t think we’ll ever know.
 
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zippy

Freedom!
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johnboyA6E

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sounds like our satellites picked up signals of the targeting radar then IR signatures of two SAM launches followed by IR signature of impact
 

HuggyU2

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A bunch of Canadians on board.
I am sure Justin Trudeau will act swiftly and decisively.

i'd like to think i'd be smart enough to switch to a later flight
How about if Ukrainian Airlines used some common sense (or filled out an ORM worksheet) and decided that passenger service was probably not a good idea after missile strikes were taking place? F'in idiots. Who makes these decisions? Can you imagine the blowback had United or Delta done this?

Can you imagine a United or Delta Captain saying "Sure! Close the door... we are ready for push back!"? I can't.

Ukrainian Airlines is culpable for being stupid... which resulted in the death of 176 innocent people. Disgusting.
 
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Treetop Flyer

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I am sure Justin Trudeau will act swiftly and decisively.


How about if Ukrainian Airlines used some common sense (or filled out an ORM worksheet) and decided that passenger service was probably not a good idea after missile strikes were taking place? F'in idiots. Who makes these decisions? Can you imagine the blowback had United or Delta done this?

Can you imagine a United or Delta Captain saying "Sure! Close the door... we are ready for push back!"? I can't.

Ukrainian Airlines is culpable for being stupid... which resulted in the death of 176 innocent people. Disgusting.
Could be a black eye for Trudeau. Or maybe he just hasn’t gotten all the shoe polish off yet.
 
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