Oh, and it doesn't work underway...
Stop the presses...
Oh, and it doesn't work underway...
it could be a decent program, if it weren't another piece of paper to fill out / complete post flight, and therefore it understandably gets dropped by the wayside. Oh, and it doesn't work underway...
This brings up a thread jack I've been wondering about. Do all of the other communities have to deal with the admin nightmare post flight? Since we lost Nalcomis, we now have to log the flight in OOMA, then strip the mntx card, then upstairs to log the flight again in SHARP and then log an ASAP report as well. Basically it's 30 minutes before we can even start our de-brief process.
We have a program similar to the NASA ASRS called "ASAP" (Aviation Safety Awareness Program). It's similar to ASRS in that it's a way to anonymously report aviation safety/procedural/etc. issues, with no retribution. One "shall" be completed after each flight, even if there is nothing to report.
Unlike ASRS, however, there is no online database of "So there I was..." stories (yet?). Certain personnel in the squadron safety departments have access to ASAP narratives, and will sometimes use them for squadron training or to address trends with the appropriate agencies, but it seems that ASAP is more about data collection (at least for now). Are there any ASAP ninjas out there who could inform us of the inner workings of ASAP?
Your story sounds like something similar that happened to me working out of Opa Locka a few months ago (sans CAP). We did everything right and talked to Approach to let them know we were leaving the ADIZ (for a gunnex) and would need to reenter. They gave us a squawk and said to call them when we were back up (I explained we'd be out of radio due to altitude for an hour). When we came back up and checked in, again explaining why we were there, they let us come back into the ADIZ w/out incident. Turns out FASFAC was freaked out about something (the same FASFAC I've tried to call when flying off the boat in previous experience and who wouldn't answer) and wondered where we were coming from. They called the Coast Guard station (our base) to see what was going on, since they assumed it was them. Contrary to popular belief, you don't actually need MODE 4 to penetrate an ADIZ and that was WAY beyond FASFAC's SA (among other things). In the end it wasn't that big a deal (I was the HAC and had the CO as my co-pilot, so he knew we did everything right), but still annoying.phrog73 said:Nope. Quantico is considered "local area" for us, so the only thing we have to do is file an SFRA flight plan. Problem is - you have to file an entry flight plan, and an exit flight plan...
RLSO said:Slow it down on a TACAN into NSE....!? That controller should be fired for not being able to keep up with a turboprop.
This sounds more like bored controllers trying to make sure those danged navy boys know who's in charge! I mean really, if they're sweating the speed of T-34s and T-6's around NW FL.... Sucks to be you guys.
Nailed itI've never in my life heard of this ASAP program. Am I supposed to be using it?
It sounds like yet another Safety Center attempt to collect a billion data points, do absolutely ZERO analysis on that data, and then hide all anecdotal lessons learned from all of us because of "privilege".
Does that about cover it?
beautiful"I need all instructors to answer radio calls..."
Unfortunately, ASAP doesn't actually prevent anything bad happening to you. Yes it's anonymous, but as such, it's not like you can't still get violated unanonymously...or at least yelled at by the Wing for doing something that may have been perfectly legal.
Really? That's unfortunate.
Really? That's unfortunate.
I realize that "anonymous" is a misnomer, especially when one ASAP is submitted from the only line on the schedule, but that leaves the possibility that potentially important information isn't going to be shared (due to possible retribution). Oh well.
Just an msharp. Unless you dropped a GBU or fired the laserThis brings up a thread jack I've been wondering about. Do all of the other communities have to deal with the admin nightmare post flight? Since we lost Nalcomis, we now have to log the flight in OOMA, then strip the mntx card, then upstairs to log the flight again in SHARP and then log an ASAP report as well. Basically it's 30 minutes before we can even start our de-brief process.
Xs less than ASAPs = people aren't doing it.My question was always: if it's anonymous, how do you know I haven't done it? Apparently the answer is if NO ONE is doing it in your command, then they know. True story.