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IFS Gouge

Wudgles

Cause I am most ill and I'm rhymin' and stealin'
pilot
If there's something jacked up about your final leg just go around. (AKA don't have a major brain fart like I did today and risk cross controlling)

+1; I went around on my first pass in the pattern.

Also, if you have the means, GO TO TRIDENT IN GULF SHORES. Amazing people, no tower, and free food (though I heard they stopped the free food as of late).
 

CUPike11

Still avoiding work as much as possible....
None
Contributor
Is Skywarriors still in business? Heard they had some issues.................

Yes sir, they are. I'm finishing up my PPL through them. As my flight instructor stated, since I went through in July 2010, some "changes" had been implemented.
 

FlyinRock

Registered User
My regards to Lou and Zahir if they are still there. I was one of the two CFI's who started the Skywarrior gig at Bay Minette.
Semper Fi
Rocky
 

CUPike11

Still avoiding work as much as possible....
None
Contributor
My regards to Lou and Zahir if they are still there. I was one of the two CFI's who started the Skywarrior gig at Bay Minette.
Semper Fi
Rocky

I can definitely past that along. They're both still there and doing well. Skywarriors is located at Pensacola Regional now, but the Skywarriors sign is also still up at Bay Minette
 

sickboy

Well-Known Member
pilot
+1; I went around on my first pass in the pattern.

Also, if you have the means, GO TO TRIDENT IN GULF SHORES. Amazing people, no tower, and free food (though I heard they stopped the free food as of late).

Coffee's still free though
 

DanMa1156

Is it baseball season yet?
pilot
Contributor
Food is still free at Jack Edwards... And now AMS has a satellite facility there which was also awesome. I finished up IFS there last week and after the ground school portion, I had a blast flying. Can't speak for Trident, but AMS at Gulf Shores has their stuff together and the atmosphere is good too.
 

z5levi

New Member
So here's my question: I was told that because I hold multiple commercial pilot ratings and have a few hundred hours under my belt (in the grand scheme of things, this is by no means a lot btw), I get to skip a few Navy flight courses. Is this one of them? I mean, I wouldn't mind boppin around in a C172 for a few days. It's one of the cheapest planes for spin awareness training and I love spinning planes, but if all they do is get you to your first solo it seems a little redundant for those with a PPL or higher. It sounds like IFS makes you get your private pilot license from the FAA. If that's the case, Gleim, ASA, and Jeppesen, all make great publications with the entire FAA test bank published for you to memorize. I used Gleim for my private and instrument, and used ASA for my commercial, FOI, and FIA. Both publications are great.
 

Ezekiel

Falling, with style
None
So here's my question: I was told that because I hold multiple commercial pilot ratings and have a few hundred hours under my belt (in the grand scheme of things, this is by no means a lot btw), I get to skip a few Navy flight courses. Is this one of them?

If you have a PPL or higher, you will skip IFS.

If that's the case, Gleim, ASA, and Jeppesen, all make great publications

IFS students are issued Jeppesen texts including the question bank and use their online training for ground school.
 

SynixMan

HKG Based Artificial Excrement Pilot
pilot
Contributor
So here's my question: I was told that because I hold multiple commercial pilot ratings and have a few hundred hours under my belt (in the grand scheme of things, this is by no means a lot btw), I get to skip a few Navy flight courses. Is this one of them? I mean, I wouldn't mind boppin around in a C172 for a few days. It's one of the cheapest planes for spin awareness training and I love spinning planes, but if all they do is get you to your first solo it seems a little redundant for those with a PPL or higher. It sounds like IFS makes you get your private pilot license from the FAA. If that's the case, Gleim, ASA, and Jeppesen, all make great publications with the entire FAA test bank published for you to memorize. I used Gleim for my private and instrument, and used ASA for my commercial, FOI, and FIA. Both publications are great.

You can request an accelerated syllabus in Primary too, but I'd say you'd be stupid to do that. Don't hide your flight time, but no one can make you take the accelerated.
 

ryan1234

Well-Known Member
So here's my question: I was told that because I hold multiple commercial pilot ratings and have a few hundred hours under my belt (in the grand scheme of things, this is by no means a lot btw), I get to skip a few Navy flight courses. Is this one of them? I mean, I wouldn't mind boppin around in a C172 for a few days. It's one of the cheapest planes for spin awareness training and I love spinning planes, but if all they do is get you to your first solo it seems a little redundant for those with a PPL or higher. It sounds like IFS makes you get your private pilot license from the FAA. If that's the case, Gleim, ASA, and Jeppesen, all make great publications with the entire FAA test bank published for you to memorize. I used Gleim for my private and instrument, and used ASA for my commercial, FOI, and FIA. Both publications are great.

Dude - forget the civie time, you should consider not doing the accel course. I have pretty much most Commercial fixed wing rating MEL,MES,SEL,SES with a fair amount of acro/warbird/ tailwheel time, blah blah... And I just got my ass kicked by the T-38 sim. Take EVERY study/training advantage you can - seriously! It's different.
 

Moc1Sig

Active Member
pilot
Contributor
Dude - forget the civie time, you should consider not doing the accel course. I have pretty much most Commercial fixed wing rating MEL,MES,SEL,SES with a fair amount of acro/warbird/ tailwheel time, blah blah... And I just got my ass kicked by the T-38 sim. Take EVERY study/training advantage you can - seriously! It's different.

+1 heck yeah! I have commercial instrument and pretty jealous of my roommate flying in IFS, while I beat my head into the Aero and engines book. Although I am stoked to be getting closer to wearing that green bag to work. Either way IFS is a grain of salt in your navy flight training, make use of it because you learn a lot of important material that even the most seasoned pilot has most likely forgotten.
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
pilot
None
Contributor
+1 heck yeah! I have commercial instrument and pretty jealous of my roommate flying in IFS, while I beat my head into the Aero and engines book. Although I am stoked to be getting closer to wearing that green bag to work. Either way IFS is a grain of salt in your navy flight training, make use of it because you learn a lot of important material that even the most seasoned pilot has most likely forgotten.


Right, but if you already have your PPL you don't have the option of doing IFS, you just don't get to do it.
 

Moc1Sig

Active Member
pilot
Contributor
right, guess i was more implying towards requesting the accelerated syllabus, through metaphor... my braining is turning to smush as we speak.
 

Python

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
I'll offer the dissenting view:

I did the primary accelerated syllabus. At no time did I feel like I was at a disadvantage because of it. Only a few flights in contacts are cut out. In fact when I was going through the lousy T-34 maintenance situation combined with the sketchy weather, the program helped me get through contacts reasonably without having to do a bunch of warmups, since it was easier to get less X's. The other times you "accelerate" is some RI sims go away and maybe an RI flight or two. Frankly I couldn't stand to be in those sims so it was good to have less of them. PAs and Forms are unchanged since they are not as common to civilians.

Most will probably say "yeah you did less of those events but you got less practice!". True, but that was easily compensated for by my civvie time. Lots of people like to say that the military way is so different. While this is true, in my opinion there isn't much difference in PRIMARY. Sure, the IPs are tougher and have higher standards. The VFR pattern is noticeably different, and more emphasis is placed on EPs than civilian entry level training, but other than that, the substance of the training is not that much different in my opinion. Having prior experience MORE than made up for a couple of X's going away and I was happy to have more time away from building 89 in Corpus.

A lot of the guys I know with prior training (beyond a simple VFR ppl) did substantially better gradewise. That's not a guarantee, but it was a trend I observed. That goes for primary ONLY and after that all bets are off.

I digress. My point is: if you want to do the accelerated program don't be turned off to it immediately. It's only a FEW X's that get combined and the prior experience should definitely help you out.
 
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