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Old Uniforms.....1930s - 1940s

feddoc

Really old guy
Contributor
On the 'right' shoulder?????



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brownshoe

Well-Known Member
Contributor
Yeah, I think that’s right. In older pictures, I remember seeing ‘rate’ on the right arm, and ‘hash marks’ on the left arm.

And before Flugelman says anything, my rate badge was on my left arm.:D

Steve


Edit:RIGHT ARM RATES--established in 1841 and disestablished 2 April 1949, originally signified men of the Seaman branch. During WWII these rates included Boatswains Mate, Turret Captain, Signalman, Gunners Mate, Fire Controlman, Quartermaster, Mineman, and Torpedomans Mate. Other ratings wore rates on the left sleeve

Our buddy here, Ernest, was a Gunners Mate.
 

Flugelman

Well-Known Member
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Yeah, I think that’s right. In older pictures, I remember seeing ‘rate’ on the right arm, and ‘hash marks’ on the left arm.

And before Flugelman says anything, my rate badge was on my left arm.:D

Steve


Edit:RIGHT ARM RATES--established in 1841 and disestablished 2 April 1949, originally signified men of the Seaman branch. During WWII these rates included Boatswains Mate, Turret Captain, Signalman, Gunners Mate, Fire Controlman, Quartermaster, Mineman, and Torpedomans Mate. Other ratings wore rates on the left sleeve

Our buddy here, Ernest, was a Gunners Mate.

WHO???? ME???? :D:D:D

I can remember some "Right Arm Rate" discussions way back when... I was was watching a WWII movie the other day and the wife caught a rating badge on the "wrong" arm and commented on it. I had to go look up the rates that wore those.
 

fc2spyguy

loving my warm and comfy 214 blanket
pilot
Contributor
Aww shucks, and here I thought I had an opportunity to impress w/ my knowledge, and not my abilities with google :( Yes, being a right arm rate adds a little to the legacy of a rate. Maybe this is why I think tradition is a good thing, and am also hoping that the latest fight for an old uniform is won.

note: the fc in my name stands for Fire Controlman :D No, I'm not a spy, I just worked on the radar :)
 

brownshoe

Well-Known Member
Contributor
Aww shucks, and here I thought I had an opportunity to impress w/ my knowledge, and not my abilities with google :( Yes, being a right arm rate adds a little to the legacy of a rate. Maybe this is why I think tradition is a good thing, and am also hoping that the latest fight for an old uniform is won.

note: the fc in my name stands for Fire Controlman :D No, I'm not a spy, I just worked on the radar :)


I confess, I Google'd for the answer.:) I did know about the right arm, but didn’t know why. Guilty.:eek:

Steve
 

RCL813

FY 09 CORE Selectee!
Ha, I haven't heard a "right arm rate" discussion in a while. My step dad and his friend used to gloat about being a BM and a GM when they "were still right arm rates, the way ot should be!"
 

picklesuit

Dirty Hinge
pilot
Contributor
note: the fc in my name stands for Fire Controlman :D No, I'm not a spy, I just worked on the radar :)

So you are the guy to blame when we fly a little close to the A. Burke's and my nuts start to tingle? Turn that thing off once in a while!
 

fc2spyguy

loving my warm and comfy 214 blanket
pilot
Contributor
So you are the guy to blame when we fly a little close to the A. Burke's and my nuts start to tingle? Turn that thing off once in a while!

No, that would have been the dumbass ASTAC that always tac sig'd you guys. We may have it sectored, but if they have you tac sig'd it don't matter.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
RIGHT ARM RATES--established in 1841 and disestablished 2 April 1949, originally signified men of the Seaman branch. During WWII these rates included Boatswains Mate, Turret Captain, Signalman, Gunners Mate, Fire Controlman, Quartermaster, Mineman, and Torpedomans Mate. Other ratings wore rates on the left sleeve....
I love the "old" uni's ....

Sounds like the "hard-core" blackshoe ratings wore their rate on the right arm ... so how about Machinist's Mates???

I realize this was "just" Hollywood -- but it was pretty damn accurate w/regard to uniforms of the period ... ??? Was it "right" (or left
:)) ... or was it just Hollywood ??? :):confused:

 

H60Gunner

Registered User
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So you are the guy to blame when we fly a little close to the A. Burke's and my nuts start to tingle? Turn that thing off once in a while!

I always wondered about that. Sectored my ass! I had a floppy disk in my pocket during DLQ's to an AB, when I got back to the boat it was slicked.

I have three boys so it didn't fry my nuts, maybe my brain....
 
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