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bunk22

Super *********
pilot
Super Moderator
Cuz a 2.97 and a 3.1 aren't that competitive. I'm good when it comes to the criminal stuff but the credit history is what's scaring me. I've skipped monthly payments before; presently, I am all current with my cards but I had a charge off back in 01. Then, you add all of my school loans, I'm worried about how that will reflect.

So, if knowing that there are people will four strikes against them getting on board then I'd feel a heap of a lot better.

I'd be more worried other things, like.......which tastes better, Coke or Pepsi. Many college kids have debt. I had debt though certainly not anywhere close to $100k :eek: My credit was shit, etc. I think it was still not so great when I got my TS clearance.
 

IBvsSNA

New Member
thanks for all of the replies. still not sure what i'll go for if i do end up getting an offer from goldman sachs and the navy. not gonna lie, would way rather pursue a naval aviator career, but the $$$ to be made from wall street are awfully tempting, especially if you have $50k in debt from undergrad school loans. i have no history of drugs etc, but i have been taking meds for a.d.d. since high school, and i do only have a 3.3 in college. i've already decided to go ahead and apply to be a pilot, but i wanted to know what the chances were, given my medical and legal history (i have 2 bs misdemeanors...).

i've been talking to a guy who now works for gs after being an f-14 pilot for 10 years, and that pretty much seems like the ideal career path for me. i just don't know what the odds are of getting into a top firm or a top b-school after the navy. like i said though, i'm really torn between the two career paths, though i'm probably leaning slightly towards the navy (assuming i get accepted). any more advice or recommendations are certainly appreciated.
 

Cavt

Living the dream
pilot
I came out of college with about 80k in student loans...thats what happens when tuition is 40,000 a year and grants/parents can only take care of so much.
 

eddie

Working Plan B
Contributor
thanks for all of the replies. still not sure what i'll go for if i do end up getting an offer from goldman sachs and the navy. not gonna lie, would way rather pursue a naval aviator career, but the $$$ to be made from wall street are awfully tempting, especially if you have $50k in debt from undergrad school loans. i have no history of drugs etc, but i have been taking meds for a.d.d. since high school, and i do only have a 3.3 in college. i've already decided to go ahead and apply to be a pilot, but i wanted to know what the chances were, given my medical and legal history (i have 2 bs misdemeanors...).

i've been talking to a guy who now works for gs after being an f-14 pilot for 10 years, and that pretty much seems like the ideal career path for me. i just don't know what the odds are of getting into a top firm or a top b-school after the navy. like i said though, i'm really torn between the two career paths, though i'm probably leaning slightly towards the navy (assuming i get accepted). any more advice or recommendations are certainly appreciated.

Meds will be an issue, if not totally disqualifying.
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
$25K a year x 5 year program = $125K.

Parents made too much for me to qualify for most grants/aid, but not enough to pay for more than sending me some spending money and make my car insurance payment.
 

BackOrdered

Well-Known Member
Contributor
Parents made too much for me to qualify for most grants/aid, but not enough to pay for more than sending me some spending money and make my car insurance payment.

My story is the same. Before BDCP, I saw a kid get twice the money from the Resident Access Grant than me, while I had to work two jobs to make tuition.
 

IBvsSNA

New Member
Meds will be an issue, if not totally disqualifying.

i was afraid it would be an issue... i am willing to stop taking them if i get accepted, they're definitely just an academic supplement. does it matter if i tell them that i'm willing to discontinue all meds to go into the navy? don't know if it matters, but the medication i'm specifically referencing is adderall, which are the only meds i've ever been on. anyone out there know if that matters?

also, i understand all of the complaints about college loans on this forum. my parents haven't spent a dime on me since sophomore year of high school, and i'm putting myself through a top-40 liberal arts school at $45k per year. after scholarships and my own earnings i'll only graduate with about $50k of debt, but that still definitely seems rather overwhelming.
 

BigIron

Remotely piloted
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
i was afraid it would be an issue... i am willing to stop taking them if i get accepted, they're definitely just an academic supplement. does it matter if i tell them that i'm willing to discontinue all meds to go into the navy? don't know if it matters, but the medication i'm specifically referencing is adderall, which are the only meds i've ever been on. anyone out there know if that matters?

Here's the ADHD section from the NOMI waiver guide:

http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/NAMI/WaiverGuideTopics/pdfs/Waiver%20Guide%20-%20Psychiatry.pdf

It's waiverable if all of the gates can be met.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
....still not sure what i'll go for if i do end up getting an offer from goldman sachs and the navy. not gonna lie.....
And I'm not gonna lie to a kid from Whitman College, either .... :)

If you are that conflicted at this point in your life on what career direction you should take -- don't go Naval Aviation. It is something you WANT -- it's a commitment -- it's not something behind door #1 or door #2 ...

In the end, with that attitude and 50% +/- motivation --- you'll end up being a shitty Naval Aviator and do no one any good.

>> We're not the way we are because we're Naval Aviators .... we're Naval Aviators because of the way we are ... << .... and I don't think you are "there". ;)

Believe it ...
 

red_ryder

Well-Known Member
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And I'm not gonna lie to a kid from Whitman College, either .... :)

If you are that conflicted at this point in your life on what career direction you should take -- don't go Naval Aviation. It is something you WANT -- it's a commitment -- it's not something behind door #1 or door #2 ...

In the end, with that attitude and 50% +/- motivation --- you'll end up being a shitty Naval Aviator and do no one any good.

>> We're not the way we are because we're Naval Aviators .... we're Naval Aviators because of the way we are ... << .... and I don't think you are "there". ;)

Believe it ...

So, let me get this straight, you're only going to be a good naval aviator if you jump into a 10 year or so commitment without a second thought? I would think that you would want to mull this decision over for awhile to make sure that you've got the proper level of determination...once you're in, there's no turning back...
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
So, let me get this straight, you're only going to be a good naval aviator if you jump into a 10 year or so commitment without a second thought? I would think that you would want to mull this decision over for awhile to make sure that you've got the proper level of determination...once you're in, there's no turning back...
So let me get this straight ... he's 20-something and you think he's got a lot of time to mull over door #1 or door #2???

It's time to shit or get off the pot. If he doesn't have whatever you think is a sufficiency of "determination" ... he's not going to get it in time. He either "wants it" or he/she doesn't ..... You DO understand that, don't you???

I love the duplicitous mentality of some of our younger generations ... it isn't all about YOU, boys ...

Naval Aviation is not a "job" ... and it ain't an "adventure" (but it can be, to some degree) ... it's a calling.
 

IBvsSNA

New Member
My recruiter told me it's a 6-9 month application process, so I do have some time to reflect and mull it over. I can tell you that if I get accepted and I decide to do it, I'll be going into it 100%. Right now I'm trying to educate myself as much as possible about what the job actually entails, so I can make an informed decision. I'm pretty sure that every day of my life would be shooting down a few migs and buzzing the tower, after boning the admiral's smokin-hot daughter of course :icon_smil

However, judging from some of these replies and that waiver guide that was posted, I probably won't have the option to make that choice. I'm still going to go for it and see if I can get those requirements waived. So yeah, I do have to shit or get off the pot, but at least I have a few months to get some reading done on it.
 
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